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Domain Name Renaming [message #156221] Fri, 12 June 2009 03:57 Go to next message
Jaz  is currently offline Jaz
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Junior Member
Hi All,

We do have a setup in house AD and OCS 2007 but not OCS 2007 R2 and windows
OS is windows 2003 servers. We need to change the domain name since we
implemented the name in such not recommended way.

Domain Name : glonline_pl.com

We need to change the Domain Name : glonlinepl.com.

Does any one know step by step procedures to do this process with out
effecting domain and OCS 2007 set up ?

Highly appreciate all of yours help..
Re: Domain Name Renaming [message #156224 is a reply to message #156221] Fri, 12 June 2009 06:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
meiweb(nospam)  is currently offline meiweb(nospam)  Germany
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Hello Jaz..,

Check out this article first:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsserver/bb405948.as px

Please note that some server-based applications are incompatible with the
domain rename feature. These incompatibilities either block or complicate
the use of the domain rename feature when you try to rename.


Examples of applications that are incompatible with domain rename include
but are not limited to the following products:
- Microsoft Exchange 2000 Server
- Microsoft Exchange Server 2007
- Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration (ISA) Server 2004
- Microsoft Live Communications Server 2005
- Microsoft Operations Manager 2005
- Microsoft SharePoint Portal Server 2003
- Microsoft Systems Management Server (SMS) 2003
- Microsoft Office Communications Server 2007


Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Hi All,
>
> We do have a setup in house AD and OCS 2007 but not OCS 2007 R2 and
> windows OS is windows 2003 servers. We need to change the domain name
> since we implemented the name in such not recommended way.
>
> Domain Name : glonline_pl.com
>
> We need to change the Domain Name : glonlinepl.com.
>
> Does any one know step by step procedures to do this process with out
> effecting domain and OCS 2007 set up ?
>
> Highly appreciate all of yours help..
>
Re: Domain Name Renaming [message #156230 is a reply to message #156221] Fri, 12 June 2009 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
meiweb(nospam)  is currently offline meiweb(nospam)  Germany
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Hello Jaz..,

What maybe can work is to remove OCS from the domain and restore it later
on after renaming, but therefore post this to an OCS newsgroup.

Here you find them all:
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/officecomm unicationsserver

And this one should be yours for asking:
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/communicationsserve rsetup/threads

See here about backup restore of OCS 2007:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd627306.aspx

Or you can maybe use ADMT to migrate to the domain with new domain name.
But also don't know if OCS is supported that way.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Hi All,
>
> We do have a setup in house AD and OCS 2007 but not OCS 2007 R2 and
> windows OS is windows 2003 servers. We need to change the domain name
> since we implemented the name in such not recommended way.
>
> Domain Name : glonline_pl.com
>
> We need to change the Domain Name : glonlinepl.com.
>
> Does any one know step by step procedures to do this process with out
> effecting domain and OCS 2007 set up ?
>
> Highly appreciate all of yours help..
>
Re: Domain Name Renaming [message #156240 is a reply to message #156221] Fri, 12 June 2009 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SubstituteThisWithMyF  is currently offline SubstituteThisWithMyF  Netherlands
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Registered: October 2009
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to keep it simple...

Domain Rename is NOT an easy process and for sure it WILL impact the
environment at some point in time. Sometimes, migration as an alternative is
better. You also need to check out if OCS supports domain rename.

check out my blog domain rename:
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2005/11/24/154. aspx
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2006/05/24/1037 .aspx


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"Jaz.." <Jaz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D6FB5AC4-C42C-4522-9101-B56E4A16599D@microsoft.com...
> Hi All,
>
> We do have a setup in house AD and OCS 2007 but not OCS 2007 R2 and
> windows
> OS is windows 2003 servers. We need to change the domain name since we
> implemented the name in such not recommended way.
>
> Domain Name : glonline_pl.com
>
> We need to change the Domain Name : glonlinepl.com.
>
> Does any one know step by step procedures to do this process with out
> effecting domain and OCS 2007 set up ?
>
> Highly appreciate all of yours help..
>
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Re: Domain Name Renaming [message #156251 is a reply to message #156221] Fri, 12 June 2009 09:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
aceman  is currently offline aceman  United States
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"Jaz.." <Jaz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D6FB5AC4-C42C-4522-9101-B56E4A16599D@microsoft.com...
> Hi All,
>
> We do have a setup in house AD and OCS 2007 but not OCS 2007 R2 and
> windows
> OS is windows 2003 servers. We need to change the domain name since we
> implemented the name in such not recommended way.
>
> Domain Name : glonline_pl.com
>
> We need to change the Domain Name : glonlinepl.com.
>
> Does any one know step by step procedures to do this process with out
> effecting domain and OCS 2007 set up ?
>
> Highly appreciate all of yours help..


Jaz,

You've already heard comments on the complexity and limitations. Read the
following for more info on it.

============================================================ ==========================================
Domain Rename Procedure and Notes:

Before we start (This section was already provided by Meinolf)
Examples of applications that are incompatible with domain rename include
but are not limited to the following products:
- Microsoft Exchange 2000 Server
- Microsoft Exchange Server 2007
- Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration (ISA) Server 2004
- Microsoft Live Communications Server 2005
- Microsoft Operations Manager 2005
- Microsoft SharePoint Portal Server 2003
- Microsoft Systems Management Server (SMS) 2003
- Microsoft Office Communications Server 2007

Ok, so are you sure you want to rename the domain? Read up on it first:
How Domain Rename Works:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc738208.aspx

Note: The Domain and Forest functional levels must be set to minimal 2003.
This means no Windows 2000 domain controllers can exist in the Forest. Also,
if you have Exchange 2003, make sure it is minimal SP1 in order to support a
domain rename. If Exchange 2000, either upgrade to 2003, or Exmerge all of
your mailboxes to PSTs, uninstall Exchange 2000, run the domain rename
operation, then reinstall Exchange 2000, and use Exmerge to pump the
mailboxes back in the user's newly created mailbox accounts.
How to raise domain and forest functional levels in Windows Server ...The
attribute is msDS-Behavior-Version on the CN=Partitions, CN=Configuration,
DC=ForestRootDom, DC=tld object. Value of 0 or not set=mixed level forest
....
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322692

Also, if a PKI infrastructure was installed (Certificate Services), it will
need to be removed first prior to a domain rename:

How to decommission a Windows enterprise certification authority:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/889250

819145 - Support WebCast Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Implementing an
Active Directory Domain Rename Operation:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;819145&Product=winsvr2003

Windows Server 2003 Active Directory Domain Rename Tools:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsserver/bb405948.as px

Domain Rename Rename a Windows 2003 Forest with Exchange 2003 installed
(ifyou don't have Exchange, you can ignore the Exchange part)
http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Domain-Rename.html

Domain Rename Part 1 - Setup
http://thelazyadmin.com/blogs/thelazyadmin/archive/2006/06/0 7/Domain-Rename-Part-1-_2D00_-Setup.aspx

Domain Rename Part 2 - Renaming
http://thelazyadmin.com/blogs/thelazyadmin/archive/2006/06/0 8/Domain-Rename-Part-2-_2D00_-Renaming.aspx

Domain Rename Part 3 - Exchange 2003
http://thelazyadmin.com/blogs/thelazyadmin/archive/2006/06/0 9/Domain-Rename-Part-3-_2D00_-Exchange-2003.aspx

Now if you have Exchange 2003, here is what you need as well:
Supplemental steps for using the Exchange Server Domain Rename Fixup tool
together with the Windows Server 2003 domain rename tools:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/842116/

Domain Rename Rename a Windows 2003 Forest with Exchange 2003 installed
http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Domain-Rename.html

Error messages encountered on renaming domain
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891370



The following was quoted from:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc738208.aspx
"Keep in mind after a rename procedure, the DC's Primary DNS Suffix is not
automatically changed to match the new domain name. You are required to
change the Primary DNS Suffix to match the new name. In other words, unlike
the names of member computers, the DNS names of domain controllers in a
renamed domain will remain unchanged. The domain controllers can be renamed
in a separate step, using a special domain controller rename procedure,
after the domain rename operation is complete. You must double-check ALL
domain members to insure that their Primary DNS Suffix matches the new
domain name."

257623 The DNS suffix of the computer name of a new domain controller may
not match the name of the domain after you upgrade a Windows NT 4.0 primary
domain controller to Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;257623

You can export your mailboxes and PFs to PST files, uninstall Exchange 2007,
then rename the domain, then reinstall Exchange 2007. I know it is easier
said then done, but that seems to be the only option at this time.

Exchange 2007 installed is not supported:
The Microsoft Exchange System Attendant service does not start on a computer
that is running Exchange Server 2007 after you rename a Windows Server 2003
domain
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925822

Exchange 2007 and Domain Rename - You can't rename when exchange 2007 is
installed.
http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/0 4/04/exchange-2007-and-domain-rename.aspx

This article will show you how to use a temp domain with Exchange 2007
installed to move all of your mailboxes and PFs to this temp organization,
then uninstall Exchange 2007, rename the domain, re-install Exchange 2007,
then move the mailboxes and PFs back to the original organization:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/exchangesvr migration/thread/31784c7f-beaa-4d83-b0ce-387a85431c94

Or simply create a new domain in a new forest with the correct name, install
Exchange 2007, use ADMT to migrate the user accounts, then perform a move
mailbox to move the mailboxes and PFs from the old to the new forest.
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Re: Domain Name Renaming [message #156298 is a reply to message #156251] Sun, 14 June 2009 01:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jaz  is currently offline Jaz
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Thanks you so much guys fir replies.. They are very helpful to me.

Many Thanks again to all of you and I do not think I shud be afraid any
more.. :D

Cheers..!!
Re: Domain Name Renaming [message #156301 is a reply to message #156298] Sun, 14 June 2009 01:51 Go to previous message
aceman  is currently offline aceman  United States
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"Jaz.." <Jaz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:036920C3-9C62-440E-B5A2-120479008826@microsoft.com...
> Thanks you so much guys fir replies.. They are very helpful to me.
>
> Many Thanks again to all of you and I do not think I shud be afraid any
> more.. :D
>
> Cheers..!!


You are welcome, and good luck!

Ace
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