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Moving file/print server to different domain [message #161577] Thu, 01 October 2009 09:09 Go to next message
MVH  is currently offline MVH
Messages: 3
Registered: October 2009
Junior Member
Looking for an easy way to move a file/print server from one domain to
another and update the file permissions.

Domaina - Old domain
Domainb - New domain

So that file permissions like domaina\Userbob get changed to domainb\Userbob.

Thanks for any suggestions.
Re: Moving file/print server to different domain [message #161580 is a reply to message #161577] Thu, 01 October 2009 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pbbergs  is currently offline pbbergs  United States
Messages: 1024
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You will want to use ADMT, a free tool from Microsoft. You will have to
establish a trust first and then migrate the users/computers across.

Establish DNS communications are configured between the two forests.
http://searchwinit.techtarget.com/expert/KnowledgebaseAnswer /0,289625,sid1_gci1101656,00.html

Create a trust between the two forests
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc780479.aspx

Download the ADMT Tool
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=6F8 6937B-533A-466D-A8E8-AFF85AD3D212&displaylang=en

ADMT Migration Guide
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=d99 ef770-3bbb-4b9e-a8bc-01e9f7ef7342&DisplayLang=en

Perform the Migration
http://www.petri.co.il/active_directory_migration_tool_usage _w2k_windows_2003.htm

Webcast
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=325393

--
Paul Bergson
MVP - Directory Services
MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009

http://www.pbbergs.com

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posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"MVH" <MVH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0008E5DB-EF21-47DB-BA62-9298DD51A86D@microsoft.com...
> Looking for an easy way to move a file/print server from one domain to
> another and update the file permissions.
>
> Domaina - Old domain
> Domainb - New domain
>
> So that file permissions like domaina\Userbob get changed to
> domainb\Userbob.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
>
Re: Moving file/print server to different domain [message #161602 is a reply to message #161580] Fri, 02 October 2009 05:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MVH  is currently offline MVH
Messages: 3
Registered: October 2009
Junior Member
Would it be possible to somehow export all of the file permissions, then
reapply them somehow ?

The users already have accounts in both domains, so there is no need to do a
user migration. I just want to be able to change the file permissions so
that when the server is removed from one domain and put into the other that
the permissions get applied too.

Thanks for your reply.



"Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" wrote:

> You will want to use ADMT, a free tool from Microsoft. You will have to
> establish a trust first and then migrate the users/computers across.
>
> Establish DNS communications are configured between the two forests.
> http://searchwinit.techtarget.com/expert/KnowledgebaseAnswer /0,289625,sid1_gci1101656,00.html
>
> Create a trust between the two forests
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc780479.aspx
>
> Download the ADMT Tool
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=6F8 6937B-533A-466D-A8E8-AFF85AD3D212&displaylang=en
>
> ADMT Migration Guide
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=d99 ef770-3bbb-4b9e-a8bc-01e9f7ef7342&DisplayLang=en
>
> Perform the Migration
> http://www.petri.co.il/active_directory_migration_tool_usage _w2k_windows_2003.htm
>
> Webcast
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=325393
>
> --
> Paul Bergson
> MVP - Directory Services
> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
> Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009
>
> http://www.pbbergs.com
>
> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
> posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> "MVH" <MVH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0008E5DB-EF21-47DB-BA62-9298DD51A86D@microsoft.com...
> > Looking for an easy way to move a file/print server from one domain to
> > another and update the file permissions.
> >
> > Domaina - Old domain
> > Domainb - New domain
> >
> > So that file permissions like domaina\Userbob get changed to
> > domainb\Userbob.
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions.
> >
> >
>
>
>
Re: Moving file/print server to different domain [message #161603 is a reply to message #161602] Fri, 02 October 2009 05:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
meiweb  is currently offline meiweb  Germany
Messages: 2225
Registered: September 2009
Senior Member
Hello MVH,

Even if the same account name, domain1\user and domain2\user, exist they
are different, you can not export permissions from one domain and import
to the second domain this way.

If you do a migration with ADMT the permissions can be taken over from one
domain to the other.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


> Would it be possible to somehow export all of the file permissions,
> then reapply them somehow ?
>
> The users already have accounts in both domains, so there is no need
> to do a user migration. I just want to be able to change the file
> permissions so that when the server is removed from one domain and put
> into the other that the permissions get applied too.
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" wrote:
>
>> You will want to use ADMT, a free tool from Microsoft. You will have
>> to establish a trust first and then migrate the users/computers
>> across.
>>
>> Establish DNS communications are configured between the two forests.
>> http://searchwinit.techtarget.com/expert/KnowledgebaseAnswer /0,289625
>> ,sid1_gci1101656,00.html
>>
>> Create a trust between the two forests
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc780479.aspx
>> Download the ADMT Tool
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=6F8 6937B-533
>> A-466D-A8E8-AFF85AD3D212&displaylang=en
>> ADMT Migration Guide
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=d99 ef770-3bb
>> b-4b9e-a8bc-01e9f7ef7342&DisplayLang=en
>> Perform the Migration
>> http://www.petri.co.il/active_directory_migration_tool_usage _w2k_wind
>> ows_2003.htm
>> Webcast
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=325393
>> --
>> Paul Bergson
>> MVP - Directory Services
>> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
>> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
>> Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009
>> http://www.pbbergs.com
>>
>> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>>
>> "MVH" <MVH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:0008E5DB-EF21-47DB-BA62-9298DD51A86D@microsoft.com...
>>
>>> Looking for an easy way to move a file/print server from one domain
>>> to another and update the file permissions.
>>>
>>> Domaina - Old domain
>>> Domainb - New domain
>>> So that file permissions like domaina\Userbob get changed to
>>> domainb\Userbob.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>>>
Re: Moving file/print server to different domain [message #161605 is a reply to message #161603] Fri, 02 October 2009 05:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MVH  is currently offline MVH
Messages: 3
Registered: October 2009
Junior Member
Thank you again for your reply....

I just wanted to clarify one last thing. If I have permissions setup on
domain1 as domain1\usera and I migrate the server using ADMT it will change
them to domain2\userb ?

I'm kinda thinking of just setting them all up manually, since there really
are not that many and I don't want to go thru the domain trust process.

Also, the webcast that this link points to no longer exists, does anyone
know of one that works ? >> Webcast
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=325393




"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:

> Hello MVH,
>
> Even if the same account name, domain1\user and domain2\user, exist they
> are different, you can not export permissions from one domain and import
> to the second domain this way.
>
> If you do a migration with ADMT the permissions can be taken over from one
> domain to the other.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
> > Would it be possible to somehow export all of the file permissions,
> > then reapply them somehow ?
> >
> > The users already have accounts in both domains, so there is no need
> > to do a user migration. I just want to be able to change the file
> > permissions so that when the server is removed from one domain and put
> > into the other that the permissions get applied too.
> >
> > Thanks for your reply.
> >
> > "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" wrote:
> >
> >> You will want to use ADMT, a free tool from Microsoft. You will have
> >> to establish a trust first and then migrate the users/computers
> >> across.
> >>
> >> Establish DNS communications are configured between the two forests.
> >> http://searchwinit.techtarget.com/expert/KnowledgebaseAnswer /0,289625
> >> ,sid1_gci1101656,00.html
> >>
> >> Create a trust between the two forests
> >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc780479.aspx
> >> Download the ADMT Tool
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=6F8 6937B-533
> >> A-466D-A8E8-AFF85AD3D212&displaylang=en
> >> ADMT Migration Guide
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=d99 ef770-3bb
> >> b-4b9e-a8bc-01e9f7ef7342&DisplayLang=en
> >> Perform the Migration
> >> http://www.petri.co.il/active_directory_migration_tool_usage _w2k_wind
> >> ows_2003.htm
> >> Webcast
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=325393
> >> --
> >> Paul Bergson
> >> MVP - Directory Services
> >> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
> >> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
> >> Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009
> >> http://www.pbbergs.com
> >>
> >> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> rights.
> >>
> >> "MVH" <MVH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:0008E5DB-EF21-47DB-BA62-9298DD51A86D@microsoft.com...
> >>
> >>> Looking for an easy way to move a file/print server from one domain
> >>> to another and update the file permissions.
> >>>
> >>> Domaina - Old domain
> >>> Domainb - New domain
> >>> So that file permissions like domaina\Userbob get changed to
> >>> domainb\Userbob.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for any suggestions.
> >>>
>
>
>
Re: Moving file/print server to different domain [message #161606 is a reply to message #161605] Fri, 02 October 2009 06:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
meiweb  is currently offline meiweb  Germany
Messages: 2225
Registered: September 2009
Senior Member
Hello MVH,

It will be domain2\usera. If you create all accounts new you have to set
all permissions on shared folders etc. also manual. This of coirse depends
on the amount of users and if you say i have not that much then you can do
it manual, but this requires to configure everything manual again, GPOs,
permissions, shares, printers etc.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


> Thank you again for your reply....
>
> I just wanted to clarify one last thing. If I have permissions setup
> on domain1 as domain1\usera and I migrate the server using ADMT it
> will change them to domain2\userb ?
>
> I'm kinda thinking of just setting them all up manually, since there
> really are not that many and I don't want to go thru the domain trust
> process.
>
> Also, the webcast that this link points to no longer exists, does
> anyone know of one that works ? >> Webcast
>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=325393
>>>
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
>
>> Hello MVH,
>>
>> Even if the same account name, domain1\user and domain2\user, exist
>> they are different, you can not export permissions from one domain
>> and import to the second domain this way.
>>
>> If you do a migration with ADMT the permissions can be taken over
>> from one domain to the other.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Would it be possible to somehow export all of the file permissions,
>>> then reapply them somehow ?
>>>
>>> The users already have accounts in both domains, so there is no need
>>> to do a user migration. I just want to be able to change the file
>>> permissions so that when the server is removed from one domain and
>>> put into the other that the permissions get applied too.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your reply.
>>>
>>> "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> You will want to use ADMT, a free tool from Microsoft. You will
>>>> have to establish a trust first and then migrate the
>>>> users/computers across.
>>>>
>>>> Establish DNS communications are configured between the two
>>>> forests.
>>>> http://searchwinit.techtarget.com/expert/KnowledgebaseAnswer /0,2896
>>>> 25 ,sid1_gci1101656,00.html
>>>>
>>>> Create a trust between the two forests
>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc780479.aspx
>>>> Download the ADMT Tool
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=6F8 6937B-5
>>>> 33
>>>> A-466D-A8E8-AFF85AD3D212&displaylang=en
>>>> ADMT Migration Guide
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=d99 ef770-3
>>>> bb
>>>> b-4b9e-a8bc-01e9f7ef7342&DisplayLang=en
>>>> Perform the Migration
>>>> http://www.petri.co.il/active_directory_migration_tool_usage _w2k_wi
>>>> nd
>>>> ows_2003.htm
>>>> Webcast
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=325393
>>>> --
>>>> Paul Bergson
>>>> MVP - Directory Services
>>>> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
>>>> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
>>>> Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009
>>>> http://www.pbbergs.com
>>>> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
>>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>>>> rights.
>>>>
>>>> "MVH" <MVH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:0008E5DB-EF21-47DB-BA62-9298DD51A86D@microsoft.com...
>>>>
>>>>> Looking for an easy way to move a file/print server from one
>>>>> domain to another and update the file permissions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Domaina - Old domain
>>>>> Domainb - New domain
>>>>> So that file permissions like domaina\Userbob get changed to
>>>>> domainb\Userbob.
>>>>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>>>>>
Re: Moving file/print server to different domain [message #161609 is a reply to message #161605] Fri, 02 October 2009 07:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pbbergs  is currently offline pbbergs  United States
Messages: 1024
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
If you want to move the server with ADMT you have to establishe a trust.

It is unfortunate that they removed that ADMT webcast, it was helpful. I
don't know of any others. Check out petri's website he has some useful info

http://www.petri.co.il/searchform?q=admt

--
Paul Bergson
MVP - Directory Services
MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009

http://www.pbbergs.com

Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"MVH" <MVH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:503D085A-A115-44B4-94B8-C07F01975CEB@microsoft.com...
> Thank you again for your reply....
>
> I just wanted to clarify one last thing. If I have permissions setup on
> domain1 as domain1\usera and I migrate the server using ADMT it will
> change
> them to domain2\userb ?
>
> I'm kinda thinking of just setting them all up manually, since there
> really
> are not that many and I don't want to go thru the domain trust process.
>
> Also, the webcast that this link points to no longer exists, does anyone
> know of one that works ? >> Webcast
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=325393
>
>
>
>
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
>
>> Hello MVH,
>>
>> Even if the same account name, domain1\user and domain2\user, exist they
>> are different, you can not export permissions from one domain and import
>> to the second domain this way.
>>
>> If you do a migration with ADMT the permissions can be taken over from
>> one
>> domain to the other.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>
>>
>> > Would it be possible to somehow export all of the file permissions,
>> > then reapply them somehow ?
>> >
>> > The users already have accounts in both domains, so there is no need
>> > to do a user migration. I just want to be able to change the file
>> > permissions so that when the server is removed from one domain and put
>> > into the other that the permissions get applied too.
>> >
>> > Thanks for your reply.
>> >
>> > "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> You will want to use ADMT, a free tool from Microsoft. You will have
>> >> to establish a trust first and then migrate the users/computers
>> >> across.
>> >>
>> >> Establish DNS communications are configured between the two forests.
>> >> http://searchwinit.techtarget.com/expert/KnowledgebaseAnswer /0,289625
>> >> ,sid1_gci1101656,00.html
>> >>
>> >> Create a trust between the two forests
>> >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc780479.aspx
>> >> Download the ADMT Tool
>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=6F8 6937B-533
>> >> A-466D-A8E8-AFF85AD3D212&displaylang=en
>> >> ADMT Migration Guide
>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=d99 ef770-3bb
>> >> b-4b9e-a8bc-01e9f7ef7342&DisplayLang=en
>> >> Perform the Migration
>> >> http://www.petri.co.il/active_directory_migration_tool_usage _w2k_wind
>> >> ows_2003.htm
>> >> Webcast
>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=325393
>> >> --
>> >> Paul Bergson
>> >> MVP - Directory Services
>> >> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
>> >> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
>> >> Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009
>> >> http://www.pbbergs.com
>> >>
>> >> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
>> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> >> rights.
>> >>
>> >> "MVH" <MVH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:0008E5DB-EF21-47DB-BA62-9298DD51A86D@microsoft.com...
>> >>
>> >>> Looking for an easy way to move a file/print server from one domain
>> >>> to another and update the file permissions.
>> >>>
>> >>> Domaina - Old domain
>> >>> Domainb - New domain
>> >>> So that file permissions like domaina\Userbob get changed to
>> >>> domainb\Userbob.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>> >>>
>>
>>
>>
Re: Moving file/print server to different domain [message #161611 is a reply to message #161609] Fri, 02 October 2009 07:24 Go to previous message
aceman  is currently offline aceman  United States
Messages: 5816
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
"Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@no_spammsn.com> wrote in message
news:%23XyoXE2QKHA.220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> If you want to move the server with ADMT you have to establishe a trust.
>
> It is unfortunate that they removed that ADMT webcast, it was helpful. I
> don't know of any others. Check out petri's website he has some useful
> info
>
> http://www.petri.co.il/searchform?q=admt
>
> --
> Paul Bergson
> MVP - Directory Services
> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
> Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009
>
> http://www.pbbergs.com
>

You can still download and run the PPT presentation in
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325393.

I believe they pulled the webcast due to age and the differences in the
newer versions of ADMT.

:-)

Ace
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