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Re: way migate to new computer? [message #163275] Wed, 27 May 2009 20:00 Go to next message
Eric S  is currently offline Eric S
Messages: 52
Registered: October 2009
Member
thanks for all your replies,
Is there a way for me to change the way the users profiles are stored -
locally instead of on the server so when I change the server they are not
comletely lost?
I have read about the admin/user state migration tool but I get too many
errors on the original server to trust it(don't think it will even run).
Also is there a repair option for sbs2003?
the main problem is that whenever I try to run any tools I get mmc.exe
application error failure to initialize(0xc0150004) - WBEM is in my path.
Have searched microsoft technet, kb, and Internet with no luck.
I was wondering if a repair would help the server.
Thanking you again - in advance
please forgive my inexperience
regards
"Larry Struckmeyer [SBS-MVP]" <lstruckmeyer@mis-wizards.com> wrote in
message news:eHYmmUj3JHA.5728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> When you create a Windows domain, it installs its own unique Security ID,
> or SID. Each user and computer that connect to that domain are also
> assigned a unique SID, so that you can't have duplicate computer names or
> numbers. When you attach an existing computer to a new root domain
> controller, which SBS is, you get a new sid, so you have to disjoin from
> the old SBS domain then join the new SBS domain, which is a new user and a
> new SID, for both the user and the computer. This is part of Windows
> Server security, and is not unique to SBS.
>
> The only way to preserve all the settings for the users is to copy them
> out and back to the new profile, in XP that's c:\documents and
> settings\user.domain.
>
> SBS Migration has figured out a way to preserve all the original settings,
> the server name and the domain name, all the shares and permissions, and
> all the emails, and to do it off line while the old box continues to run.
> The only thing carried over from the old server to the new one is the AD,
> including the users and computers with their SIDS. The only downtime of
> any significance is the actual moving of the user data from SBS_OLD to
> SBS_NEW.
>
> Highly recommended.
>
> --
> Larry
> Please post the resolution to your
> issue so that others may benefit.
>
>
> "Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" <crisnospamhanna@cpunospamservices.net> wrote in
> message news:uIV6VXh3JHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> you might consider talking to the folks at sbsmigration.com
>
>
> --
> Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
> Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
> http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-Business-Server-Unleashe d/dp/0672329573/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid= 1217269967&sr=8-1
> Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
> A Microsoft Registered Partner
> ------------------------------------
> MVPs do not work for Microsoft
> Please do not submit questions directly to me.
>
>
> "Eric S" <eistacey@adam.com.au> wrote in message
> news:g6udnfP4q6Zjn4HXnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@adnap.net.au...
> Hi,
> Can anyone please suggest a simple way to migrate/copy the relevant
> information to keep the client computers happy after I connect them to a
> new
> domain? Should I use the same domain name, user names etc?
>
> I have a sbs2003 server that is almost impossible to manage due to
> corruption. I have bought another computer which I have just installed the
> same OS onto.
> I am thinking of completing the installation all the way(to domain
> controller add users etc) There are only 10 users that use the server and
> only a few programs that need to be reinstalled. Due to the level of
> corruption it is not practicle to use the microsoft KB article(Migrating
> Windows Small Business Server 2003 to New Hardware) as I cant get some of
> the required tools to run.
> I am thinking it is easier to do a fresh install but is there a way to
> minimize disruption to the users when I phyically disconnect the the
> client
> computers and reconnect to the new server? the only programs and settings
> that are essential for the users are the office suite if this makes any
> difference.
> I would appreciate anyones thought on the best way to go
> regards
Re: way migate to new computer? [message #163277 is a reply to message #163275] Wed, 27 May 2009 20:31 Go to previous message
mwport  is currently offline mwport  United States
Messages: 1057
Registered: September 2009
Senior Member
Install and run a scan with the SBS 2003 BPA to see if it can find any
problems with your configuration:

Microsoft Windows Small Business Server 2003 Best Practices Analyzer
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=387 4527A-DE19-49BB-800F-352F3B6F2922&displaylang=en

Revert roaming profiles to local profiles
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.serv er.general/browse_thread/thread/3341069c633c0aea/25563b45e8b e7437?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=sbs+2003+revert+roaming+profi les

--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================

"Eric S" <eistacey@adam.com.au> wrote in message
news:HYCdnZ6r_5a5SYDXnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@adnap.net.au...
> thanks for all your replies,
> Is there a way for me to change the way the users profiles are stored -
> locally instead of on the server so when I change the server they are not
> comletely lost?
> I have read about the admin/user state migration tool but I get too many
> errors on the original server to trust it(don't think it will even run).
> Also is there a repair option for sbs2003?
> the main problem is that whenever I try to run any tools I get mmc.exe
> application error failure to initialize(0xc0150004) - WBEM is in my path.
> Have searched microsoft technet, kb, and Internet with no luck.
> I was wondering if a repair would help the server.
> Thanking you again - in advance
> please forgive my inexperience
> regards
> "Larry Struckmeyer [SBS-MVP]" <lstruckmeyer@mis-wizards.com> wrote in
> message news:eHYmmUj3JHA.5728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> When you create a Windows domain, it installs its own unique Security ID,
>> or SID. Each user and computer that connect to that domain are also
>> assigned a unique SID, so that you can't have duplicate computer names or
>> numbers. When you attach an existing computer to a new root domain
>> controller, which SBS is, you get a new sid, so you have to disjoin from
>> the old SBS domain then join the new SBS domain, which is a new user and
>> a new SID, for both the user and the computer. This is part of Windows
>> Server security, and is not unique to SBS.
>>
>> The only way to preserve all the settings for the users is to copy them
>> out and back to the new profile, in XP that's c:\documents and
>> settings\user.domain.
>>
>> SBS Migration has figured out a way to preserve all the original
>> settings, the server name and the domain name, all the shares and
>> permissions, and all the emails, and to do it off line while the old box
>> continues to run. The only thing carried over from the old server to the
>> new one is the AD, including the users and computers with their SIDS.
>> The only downtime of any significance is the actual moving of the user
>> data from SBS_OLD to SBS_NEW.
>>
>> Highly recommended.
>>
>> --
>> Larry
>> Please post the resolution to your
>> issue so that others may benefit.
>>
>>
>> "Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" <crisnospamhanna@cpunospamservices.net> wrote in
>> message news:uIV6VXh3JHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> you might consider talking to the folks at sbsmigration.com
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
>> Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
>> http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-Business-Server-Unleashe d/dp/0672329573/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid= 1217269967&sr=8-1
>> Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
>> A Microsoft Registered Partner
>> ------------------------------------
>> MVPs do not work for Microsoft
>> Please do not submit questions directly to me.
>>
>>
>> "Eric S" <eistacey@adam.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:g6udnfP4q6Zjn4HXnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@adnap.net.au...
>> Hi,
>> Can anyone please suggest a simple way to migrate/copy the relevant
>> information to keep the client computers happy after I connect them to a
>> new
>> domain? Should I use the same domain name, user names etc?
>>
>> I have a sbs2003 server that is almost impossible to manage due to
>> corruption. I have bought another computer which I have just installed
>> the
>> same OS onto.
>> I am thinking of completing the installation all the way(to domain
>> controller add users etc) There are only 10 users that use the server and
>> only a few programs that need to be reinstalled. Due to the level of
>> corruption it is not practicle to use the microsoft KB article(Migrating
>> Windows Small Business Server 2003 to New Hardware) as I cant get some of
>> the required tools to run.
>> I am thinking it is easier to do a fresh install but is there a way to
>> minimize disruption to the users when I phyically disconnect the the
>> client
>> computers and reconnect to the new server? the only programs and settings
>> that are essential for the users are the office suite if this makes any
>> difference.
>> I would appreciate anyones thought on the best way to go
>> regards
>
>
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