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WSUS Clients Won't Register [message #163480] Tue, 02 June 2009 13:52 Go to next message
AndyTC  is currently offline AndyTC  United States
Messages: 39
Registered: September 2009
Member
Hello,

I recently setup WSUS SP1 in a 2003 AD environment.
I have a weird problem; All my servers registered as I did those
manually on the local GP.

I created a GP for all the laptops on this site to point to the WSUS server.
However, only one laptop has registered.
But here is the weird part - It seems to change every few hours.
The one laptop that is registered will keep changing names to different
laptops.
It's like it's only allowing one to register, and it replaces that one
with a new one when it registers.

Any ideas?

I ran clientdiag.exe on a few laptops and it passed all connection tests
to the WSUS server.
Re: WSUS Clients Won't Register [message #163481 is a reply to message #163480] Tue, 02 June 2009 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
admin[1]  is currently offline admin[1]  United States
Messages: 4
Registered: October 2009
Junior Member
Andy,

Just a guess here, are the laptops from a common image? If you used imaging
software to clone the laptops and didn't use SysPrep to change the SID
you'll have trouble with WSUS. WSUS sees 1 SID & thinks it's the same
laptop.

Cleve S.

<AndyTC@community.nospam> wrote in message
news:u5e$br64JHA.1716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> I recently setup WSUS SP1 in a 2003 AD environment.
> I have a weird problem; All my servers registered as I did those manually
> on the local GP.
>
> I created a GP for all the laptops on this site to point to the WSUS
> server.
> However, only one laptop has registered.
> But here is the weird part - It seems to change every few hours.
> The one laptop that is registered will keep changing names to different
> laptops.
> It's like it's only allowing one to register, and it replaces that one
> with a new one when it registers.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> I ran clientdiag.exe on a few laptops and it passed all connection tests
> to the WSUS server.
Re: WSUS Clients Won't Register [message #163486 is a reply to message #163481] Tue, 02 June 2009 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Phillip Windell  is currently offline Phillip Windell  United States
Messages: 526
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Yes.

Unjoin it from the domain, delete the account if it was left behind
afterwards.

Change the SID

Rejoin it back tot he domain.


--
Phillip Windell

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
-----------------------------------------------------


> Ahh you are probably right.
>
> One question, will running change-sid program screw up with the active
> directory computer object then?
>
>
> Cleve S. wrote:
>> Andy,
>>
>> Just a guess here, are the laptops from a common image? If you used
>> imaging software to clone the laptops and didn't use SysPrep to change
>> the SID you'll have trouble with WSUS. WSUS sees 1 SID & thinks it's the
>> same laptop.
>>
>> Cleve S.
>>
>> <AndyTC@community.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:u5e$br64JHA.1716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I recently setup WSUS SP1 in a 2003 AD environment.
>>> I have a weird problem; All my servers registered as I did those
>>> manually on the local GP.
>>>
>>> I created a GP for all the laptops on this site to point to the WSUS
>>> server.
>>> However, only one laptop has registered.
>>> But here is the weird part - It seems to change every few hours.
>>> The one laptop that is registered will keep changing names to different
>>> laptops.
>>> It's like it's only allowing one to register, and it replaces that one
>>> with a new one when it registers.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> I ran clientdiag.exe on a few laptops and it passed all connection tests
>>> to the WSUS server.
>>
Re: WSUS Clients Won't Register [message #163487 is a reply to message #163481] Tue, 02 June 2009 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AndyTC  is currently offline AndyTC  United States
Messages: 39
Registered: September 2009
Member
Ahh you are probably right.

One question, will running change-sid program screw up with the active
directory computer object then?


Cleve S. wrote:
> Andy,
>
> Just a guess here, are the laptops from a common image? If you used imaging
> software to clone the laptops and didn't use SysPrep to change the SID
> you'll have trouble with WSUS. WSUS sees 1 SID & thinks it's the same
> laptop.
>
> Cleve S.
>
> <AndyTC@community.nospam> wrote in message
> news:u5e$br64JHA.1716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I recently setup WSUS SP1 in a 2003 AD environment.
>> I have a weird problem; All my servers registered as I did those manually
>> on the local GP.
>>
>> I created a GP for all the laptops on this site to point to the WSUS
>> server.
>> However, only one laptop has registered.
>> But here is the weird part - It seems to change every few hours.
>> The one laptop that is registered will keep changing names to different
>> laptops.
>> It's like it's only allowing one to register, and it replaces that one
>> with a new one when it registers.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> I ran clientdiag.exe on a few laptops and it passed all connection tests
>> to the WSUS server.
>
>
Re: WSUS Clients Won't Register [message #163491 is a reply to message #163487] Tue, 02 June 2009 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
meiweb(nospam)  is currently offline meiweb(nospam)  Germany
Messages: 1307
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hello AndyTC@community.nospam,

Yes, move it from the domain to workgroup and delete the account in AD UC.
Then use sysprep to change the SIDs and join it back to the domain. If you
think about using NewSID from sysinternals, keep in mind that this is not
supported from MS. Also NewSID will ONLY change the SID, while sysprep will
change some more settings.

See here about preparing an image for duplication:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457067.aspx

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
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> Ahh you are probably right.
>
> One question, will running change-sid program screw up with the active
> directory computer object then?
>
> Cleve S. wrote:
>
>> Andy,
>>
>> Just a guess here, are the laptops from a common image? If you used
>> imaging software to clone the laptops and didn't use SysPrep to
>> change the SID you'll have trouble with WSUS. WSUS sees 1 SID &
>> thinks it's the same laptop.
>>
>> Cleve S.
>>
>> <AndyTC@community.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:u5e$br64JHA.1716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I recently setup WSUS SP1 in a 2003 AD environment.
>>> I have a weird problem; All my servers registered as I did those
>>> manually
>>> on the local GP.
>>> I created a GP for all the laptops on this site to point to the WSUS
>>> server.
>>> However, only one laptop has registered.
>>> But here is the weird part - It seems to change every few hours.
>>> The one laptop that is registered will keep changing names to
>>> different
>>> laptops.
>>> It's like it's only allowing one to register, and it replaces that
>>> one
>>> with a new one when it registers.
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> I ran clientdiag.exe on a few laptops and it passed all connection
>>> tests to the WSUS server.
>>>
Re: WSUS Clients Won't Register [message #163496 is a reply to message #163491] Tue, 02 June 2009 18:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AndyTC  is currently offline AndyTC  United States
Messages: 39
Registered: September 2009
Member
Hello,

Will running sysprep mess/screw up with any of the software installed on
the laptop?

What about all the users that have logged on already, will it messed
with their cached local profiles, etc?

Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] wrote:
> Hello AndyTC@community.nospam,
>
> Yes, move it from the domain to workgroup and delete the account in AD
> UC. Then use sysprep to change the SIDs and join it back to the domain.
> If you think about using NewSID from sysinternals, keep in mind that
> this is not supported from MS. Also NewSID will ONLY change the SID,
> while sysprep will change some more settings.
>
> See here about preparing an image for duplication:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457067.aspx
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> Ahh you are probably right.
>>
>> One question, will running change-sid program screw up with the active
>> directory computer object then?
>>
>> Cleve S. wrote:
>>
>>> Andy,
>>>
>>> Just a guess here, are the laptops from a common image? If you used
>>> imaging software to clone the laptops and didn't use SysPrep to
>>> change the SID you'll have trouble with WSUS. WSUS sees 1 SID &
>>> thinks it's the same laptop.
>>>
>>> Cleve S.
>>>
>>> <AndyTC@community.nospam> wrote in message
>>> news:u5e$br64JHA.1716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I recently setup WSUS SP1 in a 2003 AD environment.
>>>> I have a weird problem; All my servers registered as I did those
>>>> manually
>>>> on the local GP.
>>>> I created a GP for all the laptops on this site to point to the WSUS
>>>> server.
>>>> However, only one laptop has registered.
>>>> But here is the weird part - It seems to change every few hours.
>>>> The one laptop that is registered will keep changing names to
>>>> different
>>>> laptops.
>>>> It's like it's only allowing one to register, and it replaces that
>>>> one
>>>> with a new one when it registers.
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> I ran clientdiag.exe on a few laptops and it passed all connection
>>>> tests to the WSUS server.
>>>>
>
>
Re: WSUS Clients Won't Register [message #163499 is a reply to message #163486] Tue, 02 June 2009 19:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KevinJ.SBS  is currently offline KevinJ.SBS  United States
Messages: 653
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
For a WSUS previously connected computer, the SUSClientID will also need to
be deleted followed by a;

wuauclt /resetauthorization

That should get it kickstarted again.



To avoid it in the future, sysprep the image to avoid the duplicate sid and
remove the SUSClientID as well.



Phillip Windell wrote:
> Yes.
>
> Unjoin it from the domain, delete the account if it was left behind
> afterwards.
>
> Change the SID
>
> Rejoin it back tot he domain.
>
>
>
>> Ahh you are probably right.
>>
>> One question, will running change-sid program screw up with the
>> active directory computer object then?
>>
>>
>> Cleve S. wrote:
>>> Andy,
>>>
>>> Just a guess here, are the laptops from a common image? If you used
>>> imaging software to clone the laptops and didn't use SysPrep to
>>> change the SID you'll have trouble with WSUS. WSUS sees 1 SID &
>>> thinks it's the same laptop.
>>>
>>> Cleve S.
>>>
>>> <AndyTC@community.nospam> wrote in message
>>> news:u5e$br64JHA.1716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I recently setup WSUS SP1 in a 2003 AD environment.
>>>> I have a weird problem; All my servers registered as I did those
>>>> manually on the local GP.
>>>>
>>>> I created a GP for all the laptops on this site to point to the
>>>> WSUS server.
>>>> However, only one laptop has registered.
>>>> But here is the weird part - It seems to change every few hours.
>>>> The one laptop that is registered will keep changing names to
>>>> different laptops.
>>>> It's like it's only allowing one to register, and it replaces that
>>>> one with a new one when it registers.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> I ran clientdiag.exe on a few laptops and it passed all connection
>>>> tests to the WSUS server.

--
/kj
Re: WSUS Clients Won't Register [message #163523 is a reply to message #163496] Wed, 03 June 2009 03:39 Go to previous message
meiweb(nospam)  is currently offline meiweb(nospam)  Germany
Messages: 1307
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hello AndyTC@community.nospam,

Software is not effected by sysprep. See here whats going on:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc736393(WS.10).aspx#w2k3tr_sys_how_pqxl

Choose "Sysprep Processes and Interactions"

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


> Hello,
>
> Will running sysprep mess/screw up with any of the software installed
> on the laptop?
>
> What about all the users that have logged on already, will it messed
> with their cached local profiles, etc?
>
> Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] wrote:
>
>> Hello AndyTC@community.nospam,
>>
>> Yes, move it from the domain to workgroup and delete the account in
>> AD UC. Then use sysprep to change the SIDs and join it back to the
>> domain. If you think about using NewSID from sysinternals, keep in
>> mind that this is not supported from MS. Also NewSID will ONLY change
>> the SID, while sysprep will change some more settings.
>>
>> See here about preparing an image for duplication:
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457067.aspx
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Ahh you are probably right.
>>>
>>> One question, will running change-sid program screw up with the
>>> active directory computer object then?
>>>
>>> Cleve S. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Andy,
>>>>
>>>> Just a guess here, are the laptops from a common image? If you
>>>> used imaging software to clone the laptops and didn't use SysPrep
>>>> to change the SID you'll have trouble with WSUS. WSUS sees 1 SID &
>>>> thinks it's the same laptop.
>>>>
>>>> Cleve S.
>>>>
>>>> <AndyTC@community.nospam> wrote in message
>>>> news:u5e$br64JHA.1716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently setup WSUS SP1 in a 2003 AD environment.
>>>>> I have a weird problem; All my servers registered as I did those
>>>>> manually
>>>>> on the local GP.
>>>>> I created a GP for all the laptops on this site to point to the
>>>>> WSUS
>>>>> server.
>>>>> However, only one laptop has registered.
>>>>> But here is the weird part - It seems to change every few hours.
>>>>> The one laptop that is registered will keep changing names to
>>>>> different
>>>>> laptops.
>>>>> It's like it's only allowing one to register, and it replaces that
>>>>> one
>>>>> with a new one when it registers.
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>> I ran clientdiag.exe on a few laptops and it passed all connection
>>>>> tests to the WSUS server.
>>>>>
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