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System State question? [message #163605] Wed, 03 June 2009 23:52 Go to next message
vdz  is currently offline vdz
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Hi All,

As I just restored yesterday the System state of a server from repair folder
not from the tape as below:
copy c:\windows\repair\system c:\windows\system32\config\SYSTEM in the
Recovery Console. Now I can log on this server. Here is my issue:
Firstlt, the backup job of Systemstate failed last night (Full backup
everynight).
Secondly, I noticed that the system drive has changed to D not C anymore. I
can't be sure whether this change is before or after restore.

Since now the server is online should I restore the system state just right
the night before the issue occured from the backup tape (rather than from the
repair folder) ?

Any idea would be much appreciated
Re: System State question? [message #163614 is a reply to message #163605] Thu, 04 June 2009 01:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
meiweb(nospam)  is currently offline meiweb(nospam)  Germany
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Hello vdz,

What you have restored is not the system state, it is the system hive and
part of the registry. The registry comprises a handful of hive files located
in the %systemroot%\System32\Config folder. When Windows starts, it builds
the registry from these files. One of the registry files is the SYSTEM hive,
and a corrupted or fragmented SYSTEM hive can prevent the system from booting.

So please describe more in detail what happens before and how you did the
restore from the system hive.

Also see this article for drive letter changes:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=223188

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> c:\windows\system32\config\SYSTEM
>
Re: System State question? [message #163616 is a reply to message #163614] Thu, 04 June 2009 02:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you again your explanation makes more sense.

Since I could not start the windows, the error message
Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt:
\WINNT\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\SYSTEM

So I copied as below:
copy c:\windows\repair\system c:\windows\system32\config\SYSTEM

And again you are right about the registry, the backup failed because of
corrupted registry.

Thanks and Regards,
Re: System State question? [message #163617 is a reply to message #163616] Thu, 04 June 2009 02:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
meiweb(nospam)  is currently offline meiweb(nospam)  Germany
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Hello vdz,

Also see this articles:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306038

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/269075

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Thank you again your explanation makes more sense.
>
> Since I could not start the windows, the error message
> Windows could not start because the following file is missing or
> corrupt:
> \WINNT\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\SYSTEM
> So I copied as below:
> copy c:\windows\repair\system c:\windows\system32\config\SYSTEM
> And again you are right about the registry, the backup failed because
> of corrupted registry.
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
Re: System State question? [message #163629 is a reply to message #163617] Thu, 04 June 2009 06:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vdz  is currently offline vdz
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Hi Meinolf

Thanks for your link. Actually those links I did read as well before I
restored the System.
But the issue is now that the backup for system state failed because of
corupt registry.
Should I restore the system state from the backup tape?

Regards

"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:

> Hello vdz,
>
> Also see this articles:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306038
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/269075
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
> > Thank you again your explanation makes more sense.
> >
> > Since I could not start the windows, the error message
> > Windows could not start because the following file is missing or
> > corrupt:
> > \WINNT\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\SYSTEM
> > So I copied as below:
> > copy c:\windows\repair\system c:\windows\system32\config\SYSTEM
> > And again you are right about the registry, the backup failed because
> > of corrupted registry.
> >
> > Thanks and Regards,
> >
>
>
>
Re: System State question? [message #163636 is a reply to message #163629] Thu, 04 June 2009 06:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
meiweb(nospam)  is currently offline meiweb(nospam)  Germany
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Hello vdz,

Normally if you have restored according to that articles the machine should
work like before. What exact error message do you get?

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Hi Meinolf
>
> Thanks for your link. Actually those links I did read as well before I
> restored the System.
> But the issue is now that the backup for system state failed because
> of
> corupt registry.
> Should I restore the system state from the backup tape?
> Regards
>
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
>
>> Hello vdz,
>>
>> Also see this articles:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306038
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/269075
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Thank you again your explanation makes more sense.
>>>
>>> Since I could not start the windows, the error message
>>> Windows could not start because the following file is missing or
>>> corrupt:
>>> \WINNT\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\SYSTEM
>>> So I copied as below:
>>> copy c:\windows\repair\system c:\windows\system32\config\SYSTEM
>>> And again you are right about the registry, the backup failed
>>> because
>>> of corrupted registry.
>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>>
Re: System State question? [message #163637 is a reply to message #163636] Thu, 04 June 2009 07:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vdz  is currently offline vdz
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Hi Meinolf,

From eventvwr:

Date 4/06/2009 Source: Backup Exec
Time:... Catergory: None
Type: Error Event ID: 57476
User: N/A
Computer: DBS01
Description
The operating system returnd an unusal error while backing up the following
file:

D:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\BootableSystemSate\Registry\softwar e

It is possible that this file is incomplete and therefore should not be
restored.
.........................


From Backup Exec Log:

V-79-57344-65247 - A failure occurred reading an object.

WARNING: " \\dbs01.weconnect.net.au.local\System?State\Registry\Registr y " is
a corrupt file.
This file cannot verify.
V-79-57344-65245 - A failure occurred accessing the object list.

The item \\dbs01.weconnect.net.au.local\System?State\System Files\System
Files in use - skipped.
The .DR file that is required for Intelligent Disaster Recovery is not updated
.....................................

Thanks in advance
Re: System State question? [message #163642 is a reply to message #163637] Thu, 04 June 2009 08:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
meiweb(nospam)  is currently offline meiweb(nospam)  Germany
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Hello vdz,

You mentioned at the beginning that the c-drive changed to d-drive after
getting the workstation back? The article didn't help?

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Hi Meinolf,
>
> From eventvwr:
>
> Date 4/06/2009 Source: Backup Exec
> Time:... Catergory: None
> Type: Error Event ID: 57476
> User: N/A
> Computer: DBS01
> Description
> The operating system returnd an unusal error while backing up the
> following
> file:
> D:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\BootableSystemSate\Registry\softwar e
>
> It is possible that this file is incomplete and therefore should not
> be
> restored.
> ........................
> From Backup Exec Log:
>
> V-79-57344-65247 - A failure occurred reading an object.
>
> WARNING:
> " \\dbs01.weconnect.net.au.local\System?State\Registry\Registr y " is
> a corrupt file.
> This file cannot verify.
> V-79-57344-65245 - A failure occurred accessing the object list.
> The item \\dbs01.weconnect.net.au.local\System?State\System
> Files\System
> Files in use - skipped.
> The .DR file that is required for Intelligent Disaster Recovery is not
> updated
> ....................................
> Thanks in advance
>
Re: System State question? [message #163689 is a reply to message #163642] Thu, 04 June 2009 18:25 Go to previous message
vdz  is currently offline vdz
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Hi Meinolf,

I looked at all event errors related to the drive change, it changed some
time in May, since then we had had an intermittent backup failure meaning
that one day successful, some other day failed.

I really don't know how it changed, but I am pretty sure it was C: drive,
because I am the one who installed and configured this server from the
scratch.

At the moment I am troubleshooting with backup failure on this server, since
it is a database server so if we don't get it backup, I am out of job soon :).

Thanks for your help so far.

Regards

"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:

> Hello vdz,
>
> You mentioned at the beginning that the c-drive changed to d-drive after
> getting the workstation back? The article didn't help?
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
> > Hi Meinolf,
> >
> > From eventvwr:
> >
> > Date 4/06/2009 Source: Backup Exec
> > Time:... Catergory: None
> > Type: Error Event ID: 57476
> > User: N/A
> > Computer: DBS01
> > Description
> > The operating system returnd an unusal error while backing up the
> > following
> > file:
> > D:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\BootableSystemSate\Registry\softwar e
> >
> > It is possible that this file is incomplete and therefore should not
> > be
> > restored.
> > ........................
> > From Backup Exec Log:
> >
> > V-79-57344-65247 - A failure occurred reading an object.
> >
> > WARNING:
> > " \\dbs01.weconnect.net.au.local\System?State\Registry\Registr y " is
> > a corrupt file.
> > This file cannot verify.
> > V-79-57344-65245 - A failure occurred accessing the object list.
> > The item \\dbs01.weconnect.net.au.local\System?State\System
> > Files\System
> > Files in use - skipped.
> > The .DR file that is required for Intelligent Disaster Recovery is not
> > updated
> > ....................................
> > Thanks in advance
> >
>
>
>
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