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No admin login [message #164197] Wed, 17 June 2009 12:37 Go to next message
Zebby  is currently offline Zebby  United Kingdom
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Testing a copy of Server 2008 Std...

If I go to the machine and try to login I get "The username or password is
incorrect"
If I use EXACTLY the same username and password in a remote desktop session,
I can log in.

The login I'm trying is the administrator account, I can see that this is a
member of all the right security groups, what the hell is going on?
Re: No admin login [message #164199 is a reply to message #164197] Wed, 17 June 2009 12:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
news  is currently offline news  Switzerland
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"Zebby" <someone@nowhere> wrote in message
news:uSWD2n27JHA.5476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Testing a copy of Server 2008 Std...
>
> If I go to the machine and try to login I get "The username or password is
> incorrect"
> If I use EXACTLY the same username and password in a remote desktop
> session, I can log in.
>
> The login I'm trying is the administrator account, I can see that this is
> a member of all the right security groups, what the hell is going on?

Could be something as simple as CapsLock, a malfunctioning keyboard or a
keyboard driver that is set up for a different language.
Re: No admin login [message #164202 is a reply to message #164197] Wed, 17 June 2009 13:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rlmueller-nospam  is currently offline rlmueller-nospam  United States
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"Zebby" <someone@nowhere> wrote in message
news:uSWD2n27JHA.5476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Testing a copy of Server 2008 Std...
>
> If I go to the machine and try to login I get "The username or password is
> incorrect"
> If I use EXACTLY the same username and password in a remote desktop
> session, I can log in.
>
> The login I'm trying is the administrator account, I can see that this is
> a member of all the right security groups, what the hell is going on?
>

It's also possible a policy denies logging on locally. On servers this right
is restricted to members of domain groups Administrators, Account Operators,
Backup Operators, Print Operators, and Server Operators. Are you logging
into the domain with an account that is a member of the domain group
Administrators or Domain Admins?

--
Richard Mueller
MVP Directory Services
Hilltop Lab - http://www.rlmueller.net
--
Re: No admin login [message #164235 is a reply to message #164202] Thu, 18 June 2009 04:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Zebby  is currently offline Zebby  United Kingdom
Messages: 11
Registered: June 2009
Junior Member
Thanks for the replies!

Keyboard and regional settings are correct for my location. Tried with 2
know good keyboards.
The account I'm using is the built in administrator account. I've checked
it's membership and it is a member of the right groups, (administrators,
domain admins, enterprise admins, remote desktop users, group policy creator
owners, schema admins, domain users)
There is no group policy set on the machine other than the 2 default domain
ones created by the OS on install. I can see that MS has set some
restrictions by default, (password length, complexity etc) but there is
nothing set to stop the administrator account logging on locally.
As a test I disabled these policies but I still can't log on locally!

I'm really stumped by this! I thought I knew most of the dirty little
secrets that Windows could use to pull the rug from under your feet but I
guess not!


"Richard Mueller [MVP]" <rlmueller-nospam@ameritech.nospam.net> wrote in
message news:e3frCT37JHA.1568@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> "Zebby" <someone@nowhere> wrote in message
> news:uSWD2n27JHA.5476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Testing a copy of Server 2008 Std...
>>
>> If I go to the machine and try to login I get "The username or password
>> is incorrect"
>> If I use EXACTLY the same username and password in a remote desktop
>> session, I can log in.
>>
>> The login I'm trying is the administrator account, I can see that this is
>> a member of all the right security groups, what the hell is going on?
>>
>
> It's also possible a policy denies logging on locally. On servers this
> right is restricted to members of domain groups Administrators, Account
> Operators, Backup Operators, Print Operators, and Server Operators. Are
> you logging into the domain with an account that is a member of the domain
> group Administrators or Domain Admins?
>
> --
> Richard Mueller
> MVP Directory Services
> Hilltop Lab - http://www.rlmueller.net
> --
>
>
Re: No admin login [message #164236 is a reply to message #164235] Thu, 18 June 2009 05:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
news  is currently offline news  Switzerland
Messages: 2294
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Have you considered the possibility that you might be addressing a different
machine with your RDP session than the one you think? One way to make sure
is to start an RDP session, then using a third-party eject command to open
and close the CD tray a few times.

I suppose you've already tried the fixer of all things: Reboot the machine.


"Zebby" <someone@nowhere> wrote in message
news:eGC$GG$7JHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the replies!
>
> Keyboard and regional settings are correct for my location. Tried with 2
> know good keyboards.
> The account I'm using is the built in administrator account. I've checked
> it's membership and it is a member of the right groups, (administrators,
> domain admins, enterprise admins, remote desktop users, group policy
> creator owners, schema admins, domain users)
> There is no group policy set on the machine other than the 2 default
> domain ones created by the OS on install. I can see that MS has set some
> restrictions by default, (password length, complexity etc) but there is
> nothing set to stop the administrator account logging on locally.
> As a test I disabled these policies but I still can't log on locally!
>
> I'm really stumped by this! I thought I knew most of the dirty little
> secrets that Windows could use to pull the rug from under your feet but I
> guess not!
>
>
> "Richard Mueller [MVP]" <rlmueller-nospam@ameritech.nospam.net> wrote in
> message news:e3frCT37JHA.1568@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Zebby" <someone@nowhere> wrote in message
>> news:uSWD2n27JHA.5476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Testing a copy of Server 2008 Std...
>>>
>>> If I go to the machine and try to login I get "The username or password
>>> is incorrect"
>>> If I use EXACTLY the same username and password in a remote desktop
>>> session, I can log in.
>>>
>>> The login I'm trying is the administrator account, I can see that this
>>> is a member of all the right security groups, what the hell is going on?
>>>
>>
>> It's also possible a policy denies logging on locally. On servers this
>> right is restricted to members of domain groups Administrators, Account
>> Operators, Backup Operators, Print Operators, and Server Operators. Are
>> you logging into the domain with an account that is a member of the
>> domain group Administrators or Domain Admins?
>>
>> --
>> Richard Mueller
>> MVP Directory Services
>> Hilltop Lab - http://www.rlmueller.net
>> --
>>
>>
>
>
Re: No admin login [message #164238 is a reply to message #164236] Thu, 18 June 2009 06:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Zebby  is currently offline Zebby  United Kingdom
Messages: 11
Registered: June 2009
Junior Member
A different machine is impossible. It has Windows server 2008 on it, every
other server we have is Win 2003.


"Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OumokY$7JHA.1764@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Have you considered the possibility that you might be addressing a
> different machine with your RDP session than the one you think? One way to
> make sure is to start an RDP session, then using a third-party eject
> command to open and close the CD tray a few times.
>
> I suppose you've already tried the fixer of all things: Reboot the
> machine.
>
>
> "Zebby" <someone@nowhere> wrote in message
> news:eGC$GG$7JHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks for the replies!
>>
>> Keyboard and regional settings are correct for my location. Tried with 2
>> know good keyboards.
>> The account I'm using is the built in administrator account. I've checked
>> it's membership and it is a member of the right groups, (administrators,
>> domain admins, enterprise admins, remote desktop users, group policy
>> creator owners, schema admins, domain users)
>> There is no group policy set on the machine other than the 2 default
>> domain ones created by the OS on install. I can see that MS has set some
>> restrictions by default, (password length, complexity etc) but there is
>> nothing set to stop the administrator account logging on locally.
>> As a test I disabled these policies but I still can't log on locally!
>>
>> I'm really stumped by this! I thought I knew most of the dirty little
>> secrets that Windows could use to pull the rug from under your feet but I
>> guess not!
>>
>>
>> "Richard Mueller [MVP]" <rlmueller-nospam@ameritech.nospam.net> wrote in
>> message news:e3frCT37JHA.1568@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "Zebby" <someone@nowhere> wrote in message
>>> news:uSWD2n27JHA.5476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Testing a copy of Server 2008 Std...
>>>>
>>>> If I go to the machine and try to login I get "The username or password
>>>> is incorrect"
>>>> If I use EXACTLY the same username and password in a remote desktop
>>>> session, I can log in.
>>>>
>>>> The login I'm trying is the administrator account, I can see that this
>>>> is a member of all the right security groups, what the hell is going
>>>> on?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's also possible a policy denies logging on locally. On servers this
>>> right is restricted to members of domain groups Administrators, Account
>>> Operators, Backup Operators, Print Operators, and Server Operators. Are
>>> you logging into the domain with an account that is a member of the
>>> domain group Administrators or Domain Admins?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Richard Mueller
>>> MVP Directory Services
>>> Hilltop Lab - http://www.rlmueller.net
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: No admin login [message #164240 is a reply to message #164236] Thu, 18 June 2009 06:23 Go to previous message
Zebby  is currently offline Zebby  United Kingdom
Messages: 11
Registered: June 2009
Junior Member
Fogot to add to the last post - the machine has been rebooted several times

"Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OumokY$7JHA.1764@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Have you considered the possibility that you might be addressing a
> different machine with your RDP session than the one you think? One way to
> make sure is to start an RDP session, then using a third-party eject
> command to open and close the CD tray a few times.
>
> I suppose you've already tried the fixer of all things: Reboot the
> machine.
>
>
> "Zebby" <someone@nowhere> wrote in message
> news:eGC$GG$7JHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks for the replies!
>>
>> Keyboard and regional settings are correct for my location. Tried with 2
>> know good keyboards.
>> The account I'm using is the built in administrator account. I've checked
>> it's membership and it is a member of the right groups, (administrators,
>> domain admins, enterprise admins, remote desktop users, group policy
>> creator owners, schema admins, domain users)
>> There is no group policy set on the machine other than the 2 default
>> domain ones created by the OS on install. I can see that MS has set some
>> restrictions by default, (password length, complexity etc) but there is
>> nothing set to stop the administrator account logging on locally.
>> As a test I disabled these policies but I still can't log on locally!
>>
>> I'm really stumped by this! I thought I knew most of the dirty little
>> secrets that Windows could use to pull the rug from under your feet but I
>> guess not!
>>
>>
>> "Richard Mueller [MVP]" <rlmueller-nospam@ameritech.nospam.net> wrote in
>> message news:e3frCT37JHA.1568@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "Zebby" <someone@nowhere> wrote in message
>>> news:uSWD2n27JHA.5476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Testing a copy of Server 2008 Std...
>>>>
>>>> If I go to the machine and try to login I get "The username or password
>>>> is incorrect"
>>>> If I use EXACTLY the same username and password in a remote desktop
>>>> session, I can log in.
>>>>
>>>> The login I'm trying is the administrator account, I can see that this
>>>> is a member of all the right security groups, what the hell is going
>>>> on?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's also possible a policy denies logging on locally. On servers this
>>> right is restricted to members of domain groups Administrators, Account
>>> Operators, Backup Operators, Print Operators, and Server Operators. Are
>>> you logging into the domain with an account that is a member of the
>>> domain group Administrators or Domain Admins?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Richard Mueller
>>> MVP Directory Services
>>> Hilltop Lab - http://www.rlmueller.net
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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