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DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #296049] Fri, 23 October 2009 13:30 Go to next message
boe  is currently offline boe  United States
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Hello,

I'm not an expert on the subject but I have set up about 15 2008 servers and
run DCPROMO without seeing this issue. I have a 2008 R2 server - just
formatted from scratch, applied the 8 or so patches from Windows update.
I'm attempting to set up a brand new domain - new everything and it has
started the DC Promo process. I've set it for 2003 functional level. It
says currently Configuring the local computer to host Active Directory
Services. I realize it said set up can take from a few minutes to several
hours but I've never ever seen it take more than 10 minutes to do dcpromo
before. This is a standalone server running 2008 R2 x64 RTM on a system
with a 3 GHz core 2 processor and 4GB of RAM on a freshly formatted 500GB
hard drive with probably 95% free.
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #296109 is a reply to message #296049] Fri, 23 October 2009 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
boe  is currently offline boe
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OK - It took a tad over an hour but it did complete. My computer has been
booting for about 10 minutes now - still got the indicator running across
the bottom to let me know it is booting. It is strange that it was so
fast in other ways on this system and so slow installing AD. I'll post
back when I've progressed past the boot screen.

"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0E2DB04A-67D1-4D22-B5C0-1EE0FB513416@microsoft.com...
> Hello,
>
> I'm not an expert on the subject but I have set up about 15 2008 servers
> and run DCPROMO without seeing this issue. I have a 2008 R2 server -
> just formatted from scratch, applied the 8 or so patches from Windows
> update. I'm attempting to set up a brand new domain - new everything and
> it has started the DC Promo process. I've set it for 2003 functional
> level. It says currently Configuring the local computer to host Active
> Directory Services. I realize it said set up can take from a few minutes
> to several hours but I've never ever seen it take more than 10 minutes to
> do dcpromo before. This is a standalone server running 2008 R2 x64 RTM
> on a system with a 3 GHz core 2 processor and 4GB of RAM on a freshly
> formatted 500GB hard drive with probably 95% free.
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #296128 is a reply to message #296109] Fri, 23 October 2009 14:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
boe  is currently offline boe
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It took over 25 minutes to get past the scrolling bar on boot up - now it
has been over 10 minutes on a black screen with just the white arrow cursor.
I had installed 2008 on this server previously without issue. Again, this
is a clean install not an upgrade - so far it looks like it is having some
pretty significant issues.

"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:17BB0EE7-6401-4879-9EF1-CC3741790DC1@microsoft.com...
> OK - It took a tad over an hour but it did complete. My computer has
> been booting for about 10 minutes now - still got the indicator running
> across the bottom to let me know it is booting. It is strange that it
> was so fast in other ways on this system and so slow installing AD. I'll
> post back when I've progressed past the boot screen.
>
> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0E2DB04A-67D1-4D22-B5C0-1EE0FB513416@microsoft.com...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm not an expert on the subject but I have set up about 15 2008 servers
>> and run DCPROMO without seeing this issue. I have a 2008 R2 server -
>> just formatted from scratch, applied the 8 or so patches from Windows
>> update. I'm attempting to set up a brand new domain - new everything and
>> it has started the DC Promo process. I've set it for 2003 functional
>> level. It says currently Configuring the local computer to host Active
>> Directory Services. I realize it said set up can take from a few
>> minutes to several hours but I've never ever seen it take more than 10
>> minutes to do dcpromo before. This is a standalone server running 2008
>> R2 x64 RTM on a system with a 3 GHz core 2 processor and 4GB of RAM on a
>> freshly formatted 500GB hard drive with probably 95% free.
>
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #296249 is a reply to message #296128] Fri, 23 October 2009 16:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OK - it was at the cursor arrow without any background or ctrl alt del to
allow me to login for over an hour - then it finally just rebooted - now
waiting for it to get past the microsoft corporation scrolling windows load
boot - it has been booting for over 10 minutes. So far this isn't going
nearly as well as my first try with Windows 2008 or even 2003.

"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:812D8B33-5237-497F-8696-C8EE43EC014E@microsoft.com...
> It took over 25 minutes to get past the scrolling bar on boot up - now it
> has been over 10 minutes on a black screen with just the white arrow
> cursor. I had installed 2008 on this server previously without issue.
> Again, this is a clean install not an upgrade - so far it looks like it is
> having some pretty significant issues.
>
> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:17BB0EE7-6401-4879-9EF1-CC3741790DC1@microsoft.com...
>> OK - It took a tad over an hour but it did complete. My computer has
>> been booting for about 10 minutes now - still got the indicator running
>> across the bottom to let me know it is booting. It is strange that it
>> was so fast in other ways on this system and so slow installing AD.
>> I'll post back when I've progressed past the boot screen.
>>
>> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:0E2DB04A-67D1-4D22-B5C0-1EE0FB513416@microsoft.com...
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm not an expert on the subject but I have set up about 15 2008 servers
>>> and run DCPROMO without seeing this issue. I have a 2008 R2 server -
>>> just formatted from scratch, applied the 8 or so patches from Windows
>>> update. I'm attempting to set up a brand new domain - new everything and
>>> it has started the DC Promo process. I've set it for 2003 functional
>>> level. It says currently Configuring the local computer to host Active
>>> Directory Services. I realize it said set up can take from a few
>>> minutes to several hours but I've never ever seen it take more than 10
>>> minutes to do dcpromo before. This is a standalone server running 2008
>>> R2 x64 RTM on a system with a 3 GHz core 2 processor and 4GB of RAM on a
>>> freshly formatted 500GB hard drive with probably 95% free.
>>
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #296341 is a reply to message #296249] Fri, 23 October 2009 17:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
boe  is currently offline boe
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OK - I guess at this point I'm only posting in case someone has a similar
experience of what I've tried. Since I waited over an hour for it to boot
after it took over an hour to run dcpromo, I've gone a head and tried
booting it in safe mode with networking - no luck, safe mode only - no
luck (just hangs on boot - never gets in) and finally directory services
repair - no luck. I've also run memory check - it is fine.

"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:D0F03667-6795-4C3C-8CE5-A2BFDBBFCC45@microsoft.com...
> OK - it was at the cursor arrow without any background or ctrl alt del to
> allow me to login for over an hour - then it finally just rebooted - now
> waiting for it to get past the microsoft corporation scrolling windows
> load boot - it has been booting for over 10 minutes. So far this isn't
> going nearly as well as my first try with Windows 2008 or even 2003.
>
> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:812D8B33-5237-497F-8696-C8EE43EC014E@microsoft.com...
>> It took over 25 minutes to get past the scrolling bar on boot up - now
>> it has been over 10 minutes on a black screen with just the white arrow
>> cursor. I had installed 2008 on this server previously without issue.
>> Again, this is a clean install not an upgrade - so far it looks like it
>> is having some pretty significant issues.
>>
>> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:17BB0EE7-6401-4879-9EF1-CC3741790DC1@microsoft.com...
>>> OK - It took a tad over an hour but it did complete. My computer has
>>> been booting for about 10 minutes now - still got the indicator running
>>> across the bottom to let me know it is booting. It is strange that it
>>> was so fast in other ways on this system and so slow installing AD. I'll
>>> post back when I've progressed past the boot screen.
>>>
>>> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:0E2DB04A-67D1-4D22-B5C0-1EE0FB513416@microsoft.com...
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I'm not an expert on the subject but I have set up about 15 2008
>>>> servers and run DCPROMO without seeing this issue. I have a 2008 R2
>>>> server - just formatted from scratch, applied the 8 or so patches from
>>>> Windows update. I'm attempting to set up a brand new domain - new
>>>> everything and it has started the DC Promo process. I've set it for
>>>> 2003 functional level. It says currently Configuring the local
>>>> computer to host Active Directory Services. I realize it said set up
>>>> can take from a few minutes to several hours but I've never ever seen
>>>> it take more than 10 minutes to do dcpromo before. This is a
>>>> standalone server running 2008 R2 x64 RTM on a system with a 3 GHz core
>>>> 2 processor and 4GB of RAM on a freshly formatted 500GB hard drive with
>>>> probably 95% free.
>>>
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #296509 is a reply to message #296341] Fri, 23 October 2009 23:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
aceman  is currently offline aceman  United States
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"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4A123351-5E3C-4F95-9CB7-F2A4D28CAD14@microsoft.com...
> OK - I guess at this point I'm only posting in case someone has a similar
> experience of what I've tried. Since I waited over an hour for it to
> boot after it took over an hour to run dcpromo, I've gone a head and tried
> booting it in safe mode with networking - no luck, safe mode only - no
> luck (just hangs on boot - never gets in) and finally directory services
> repair - no luck. I've also run memory check - it is fine.
>
> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:D0F03667-6795-4C3C-8CE5-A2BFDBBFCC45@microsoft.com...
>> OK - it was at the cursor arrow without any background or ctrl alt del to
>> allow me to login for over an hour - then it finally just rebooted - now
>> waiting for it to get past the microsoft corporation scrolling windows
>> load boot - it has been booting for over 10 minutes. So far this isn't
>> going nearly as well as my first try with Windows 2008 or even 2003.
>>
>> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:812D8B33-5237-497F-8696-C8EE43EC014E@microsoft.com...
>>> It took over 25 minutes to get past the scrolling bar on boot up - now
>>> it has been over 10 minutes on a black screen with just the white arrow
>>> cursor. I had installed 2008 on this server previously without issue.
>>> Again, this is a clean install not an upgrade - so far it looks like it
>>> is having some pretty significant issues.
>>>
>>> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:17BB0EE7-6401-4879-9EF1-CC3741790DC1@microsoft.com...
>>>> OK - It took a tad over an hour but it did complete. My computer has
>>>> been booting for about 10 minutes now - still got the indicator running
>>>> across the bottom to let me know it is booting. It is strange that
>>>> it was so fast in other ways on this system and so slow installing AD.
>>>> I'll post back when I've progressed past the boot screen.
>>>>
>>>> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:0E2DB04A-67D1-4D22-B5C0-1EE0FB513416@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not an expert on the subject but I have set up about 15 2008
>>>>> servers and run DCPROMO without seeing this issue. I have a 2008 R2
>>>>> server - just formatted from scratch, applied the 8 or so patches from
>>>>> Windows update. I'm attempting to set up a brand new domain - new
>>>>> everything and it has started the DC Promo process. I've set it for
>>>>> 2003 functional level. It says currently Configuring the local
>>>>> computer to host Active Directory Services. I realize it said set up
>>>>> can take from a few minutes to several hours but I've never ever seen
>>>>> it take more than 10 minutes to do dcpromo before. This is a
>>>>> standalone server running 2008 R2 x64 RTM on a system with a 3 GHz
>>>>> core 2 processor and 4GB of RAM on a freshly formatted 500GB hard
>>>>> drive with probably 95% free.
>>>>


I assume when you first ran dcpromo that you installed DNS or dcpromo asked
you to install DNS. The reason I mentioned that is DNS is usually the
culprit when I hear of this type of issue.

If this is the first DC in a new domain/forest, you can probably save
yourself some time and further headaches by blowing it away and reinstalling
it. If it happens again, I would think it may point to a hardware issue such
as RAM or CPU cache.

--
Ace

This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
confers no rights.

Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit among
responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your resolution.

Ace Fekay, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE & MCSA
2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
Microsoft Certified Trainer

For urgent issues, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check
http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #296515 is a reply to message #296509] Fri, 23 October 2009 23:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
boe  is currently offline boe  United States
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Thanks but with 2008 and 2008R2 dcpromo installs and configures the
components necessary for a DC including dns. I've reformatted 4 times
now - it happens each time. I've read a number of other people having the
exact same issue in technet and other places - so far I haven't seen a
solution.

"Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
news:eB75SmGVKHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4A123351-5E3C-4F95-9CB7-F2A4D28CAD14@microsoft.com...
>> OK - I guess at this point I'm only posting in case someone has a similar
>> experience of what I've tried. Since I waited over an hour for it to
>> boot after it took over an hour to run dcpromo, I've gone a head and
>> tried booting it in safe mode with networking - no luck, safe mode
>> only - no luck (just hangs on boot - never gets in) and finally directory
>> services repair - no luck. I've also run memory check - it is fine.
>>
>> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:D0F03667-6795-4C3C-8CE5-A2BFDBBFCC45@microsoft.com...
>>> OK - it was at the cursor arrow without any background or ctrl alt del
>>> to allow me to login for over an hour - then it finally just rebooted -
>>> now waiting for it to get past the microsoft corporation scrolling
>>> windows load boot - it has been booting for over 10 minutes. So far
>>> this isn't going nearly as well as my first try with Windows 2008 or
>>> even 2003.
>>>
>>> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:812D8B33-5237-497F-8696-C8EE43EC014E@microsoft.com...
>>>> It took over 25 minutes to get past the scrolling bar on boot up - now
>>>> it has been over 10 minutes on a black screen with just the white arrow
>>>> cursor. I had installed 2008 on this server previously without issue.
>>>> Again, this is a clean install not an upgrade - so far it looks like it
>>>> is having some pretty significant issues.
>>>>
>>>> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:17BB0EE7-6401-4879-9EF1-CC3741790DC1@microsoft.com...
>>>>> OK - It took a tad over an hour but it did complete. My computer has
>>>>> been booting for about 10 minutes now - still got the indicator
>>>>> running across the bottom to let me know it is booting. It is
>>>>> strange that it was so fast in other ways on this system and so slow
>>>>> installing AD. I'll post back when I've progressed past the boot
>>>>> screen.
>>>>>
>>>>> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:0E2DB04A-67D1-4D22-B5C0-1EE0FB513416@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not an expert on the subject but I have set up about 15 2008
>>>>>> servers and run DCPROMO without seeing this issue. I have a 2008 R2
>>>>>> server - just formatted from scratch, applied the 8 or so patches
>>>>>> from Windows update. I'm attempting to set up a brand new domain -
>>>>>> new everything and it has started the DC Promo process. I've set
>>>>>> it for 2003 functional level. It says currently Configuring the
>>>>>> local computer to host Active Directory Services. I realize it said
>>>>>> set up can take from a few minutes to several hours but I've never
>>>>>> ever seen it take more than 10 minutes to do dcpromo before. This
>>>>>> is a standalone server running 2008 R2 x64 RTM on a system with a 3
>>>>>> GHz core 2 processor and 4GB of RAM on a freshly formatted 500GB hard
>>>>>> drive with probably 95% free.
>>>>>
>
>
> I assume when you first ran dcpromo that you installed DNS or dcpromo
> asked you to install DNS. The reason I mentioned that is DNS is usually
> the culprit when I hear of this type of issue.
>
> If this is the first DC in a new domain/forest, you can probably save
> yourself some time and further headaches by blowing it away and
> reinstalling it. If it happens again, I would think it may point to a
> hardware issue such as RAM or CPU cache.
>
> --
> Ace
>
> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> confers no rights.
>
> Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit
> among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your
> resolution.
>
> Ace Fekay, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE & MCSA
> 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
> Microsoft Certified Trainer
>
> For urgent issues, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check
> http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
>
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #296516 is a reply to message #296509] Fri, 23 October 2009 23:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
boe  is currently offline boe  United States
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PS - I also ran the memory check twice.

"Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
news:eB75SmGVKHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4A123351-5E3C-4F95-9CB7-F2A4D28CAD14@microsoft.com...
>> OK - I guess at this point I'm only posting in case someone has a similar
>> experience of what I've tried. Since I waited over an hour for it to
>> boot after it took over an hour to run dcpromo, I've gone a head and
>> tried booting it in safe mode with networking - no luck, safe mode
>> only - no luck (just hangs on boot - never gets in) and finally directory
>> services repair - no luck. I've also run memory check - it is fine.
>>
>> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:D0F03667-6795-4C3C-8CE5-A2BFDBBFCC45@microsoft.com...
>>> OK - it was at the cursor arrow without any background or ctrl alt del
>>> to allow me to login for over an hour - then it finally just rebooted -
>>> now waiting for it to get past the microsoft corporation scrolling
>>> windows load boot - it has been booting for over 10 minutes. So far
>>> this isn't going nearly as well as my first try with Windows 2008 or
>>> even 2003.
>>>
>>> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:812D8B33-5237-497F-8696-C8EE43EC014E@microsoft.com...
>>>> It took over 25 minutes to get past the scrolling bar on boot up - now
>>>> it has been over 10 minutes on a black screen with just the white arrow
>>>> cursor. I had installed 2008 on this server previously without issue.
>>>> Again, this is a clean install not an upgrade - so far it looks like it
>>>> is having some pretty significant issues.
>>>>
>>>> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:17BB0EE7-6401-4879-9EF1-CC3741790DC1@microsoft.com...
>>>>> OK - It took a tad over an hour but it did complete. My computer has
>>>>> been booting for about 10 minutes now - still got the indicator
>>>>> running across the bottom to let me know it is booting. It is
>>>>> strange that it was so fast in other ways on this system and so slow
>>>>> installing AD. I'll post back when I've progressed past the boot
>>>>> screen.
>>>>>
>>>>> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:0E2DB04A-67D1-4D22-B5C0-1EE0FB513416@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not an expert on the subject but I have set up about 15 2008
>>>>>> servers and run DCPROMO without seeing this issue. I have a 2008 R2
>>>>>> server - just formatted from scratch, applied the 8 or so patches
>>>>>> from Windows update. I'm attempting to set up a brand new domain -
>>>>>> new everything and it has started the DC Promo process. I've set
>>>>>> it for 2003 functional level. It says currently Configuring the
>>>>>> local computer to host Active Directory Services. I realize it said
>>>>>> set up can take from a few minutes to several hours but I've never
>>>>>> ever seen it take more than 10 minutes to do dcpromo before. This
>>>>>> is a standalone server running 2008 R2 x64 RTM on a system with a 3
>>>>>> GHz core 2 processor and 4GB of RAM on a freshly formatted 500GB hard
>>>>>> drive with probably 95% free.
>>>>>
>
>
> I assume when you first ran dcpromo that you installed DNS or dcpromo
> asked you to install DNS. The reason I mentioned that is DNS is usually
> the culprit when I hear of this type of issue.
>
> If this is the first DC in a new domain/forest, you can probably save
> yourself some time and further headaches by blowing it away and
> reinstalling it. If it happens again, I would think it may point to a
> hardware issue such as RAM or CPU cache.
>
> --
> Ace
>
> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> confers no rights.
>
> Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit
> among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your
> resolution.
>
> Ace Fekay, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE & MCSA
> 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
> Microsoft Certified Trainer
>
> For urgent issues, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check
> http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
>
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #296517 is a reply to message #296509] Fri, 23 October 2009 23:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
boe  is currently offline boe  United States
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PPS I was able to install 2008 (pre R2) without issue on this same box.

"Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
news:eB75SmGVKHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4A123351-5E3C-4F95-9CB7-F2A4D28CAD14@microsoft.com...
>> OK - I guess at this point I'm only posting in case someone has a similar
>> experience of what I've tried. Since I waited over an hour for it to
>> boot after it took over an hour to run dcpromo, I've gone a head and
>> tried booting it in safe mode with networking - no luck, safe mode
>> only - no luck (just hangs on boot - never gets in) and finally directory
>> services repair - no luck. I've also run memory check - it is fine.
>>
>> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:D0F03667-6795-4C3C-8CE5-A2BFDBBFCC45@microsoft.com...
>>> OK - it was at the cursor arrow without any background or ctrl alt del
>>> to allow me to login for over an hour - then it finally just rebooted -
>>> now waiting for it to get past the microsoft corporation scrolling
>>> windows load boot - it has been booting for over 10 minutes. So far
>>> this isn't going nearly as well as my first try with Windows 2008 or
>>> even 2003.
>>>
>>> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:812D8B33-5237-497F-8696-C8EE43EC014E@microsoft.com...
>>>> It took over 25 minutes to get past the scrolling bar on boot up - now
>>>> it has been over 10 minutes on a black screen with just the white arrow
>>>> cursor. I had installed 2008 on this server previously without issue.
>>>> Again, this is a clean install not an upgrade - so far it looks like it
>>>> is having some pretty significant issues.
>>>>
>>>> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:17BB0EE7-6401-4879-9EF1-CC3741790DC1@microsoft.com...
>>>>> OK - It took a tad over an hour but it did complete. My computer has
>>>>> been booting for about 10 minutes now - still got the indicator
>>>>> running across the bottom to let me know it is booting. It is
>>>>> strange that it was so fast in other ways on this system and so slow
>>>>> installing AD. I'll post back when I've progressed past the boot
>>>>> screen.
>>>>>
>>>>> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:0E2DB04A-67D1-4D22-B5C0-1EE0FB513416@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not an expert on the subject but I have set up about 15 2008
>>>>>> servers and run DCPROMO without seeing this issue. I have a 2008 R2
>>>>>> server - just formatted from scratch, applied the 8 or so patches
>>>>>> from Windows update. I'm attempting to set up a brand new domain -
>>>>>> new everything and it has started the DC Promo process. I've set
>>>>>> it for 2003 functional level. It says currently Configuring the
>>>>>> local computer to host Active Directory Services. I realize it said
>>>>>> set up can take from a few minutes to several hours but I've never
>>>>>> ever seen it take more than 10 minutes to do dcpromo before. This
>>>>>> is a standalone server running 2008 R2 x64 RTM on a system with a 3
>>>>>> GHz core 2 processor and 4GB of RAM on a freshly formatted 500GB hard
>>>>>> drive with probably 95% free.
>>>>>
>
>
> I assume when you first ran dcpromo that you installed DNS or dcpromo
> asked you to install DNS. The reason I mentioned that is DNS is usually
> the culprit when I hear of this type of issue.
>
> If this is the first DC in a new domain/forest, you can probably save
> yourself some time and further headaches by blowing it away and
> reinstalling it. If it happens again, I would think it may point to a
> hardware issue such as RAM or CPU cache.
>
> --
> Ace
>
> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> confers no rights.
>
> Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit
> among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your
> resolution.
>
> Ace Fekay, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE & MCSA
> 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
> Microsoft Certified Trainer
>
> For urgent issues, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check
> http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
>
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #296803 is a reply to message #296517] Sat, 24 October 2009 09:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> PPS I was able to install 2008 (pre R2) without issue on this same box.
>


Then I'm not sure where the problem is. If you said you've read articles
regarding others having the same problem, what specifically do they say? Can
you share the links? It would be helpful to see what you've found.

I found a few links, two of them posted below, that state dcpromo fails on
2008 R2 (whereas previous versions will allow it although they complain) due
to the server having one or more interfaces set to use a DHCP address. I
assume you have static addresses set? I also would suggest and assume you
haven't yet installed RRAS roles. If there are two NICs that are not teamed,
I would also suggest to disable one of them or install the NIC software from
the vendor to team them, and give the team a static config.

Server 2008 R2: dcpromo fails because of dynamic IP addresses ...3 posts - 2
authors - Last post: Sep 23
Server 2008 R2: dcpromo fails because of dynamic IP addresses ... I added
the AD DS role to my Windows Server 2008 R2 installation and ran ...
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/servercoreford evelopers/thread/c2adebf5-60c7-47e2-b255-9a650a58141d

Server 2008 R2: dcpromo fails because of dynamic IP addresses ...3 posts - 2
authors - Last post: Sep 15
I added the AD DS role to my Windows Server 2008 R2 installation and ran
dcpromo... The installation process stopped in between because of ...
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsserv er2008r2networking/thread/de83d068-b49f-454b-9d72-f45f80bf10 70

Possibly also disabling IPv6 prior to promotion, may help.

Disabling IPv6 on Windows 2008 or Vista
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/paulbergson/archive/2009/03/1 9/disabling-ipv6-on-windows-2008.aspx

Ace
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #296864 is a reply to message #296803] Sat, 24 October 2009 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for working on this.

They say essentially that they are experiencing the same things I am.
I've tried disabling signatures on boot up and I've tried disabling just
about every service I could except a few which seem to be required for me to
even run dcpromo. I have only one nic with a static IP4 address and ip6 is
disabled under network properties although I've encountered the same thing
with IP6 enabled. I've done 5 complete reformats now and haven't figured
out anything on how to resolve the issue. I've tried installing AD before
running DC promo, I've tried installing DNS before running DCPromo. So far
I haven't hit the right combo to get it working.

Here are a couple -

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsserv er2008r2general/thread/1970ff97-99b5-4610-8e10-cd87cd1c980f
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsserv er2008r2general/thread/1de2c422-21ab-4116-86c8-26571f0dad5f

"Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
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> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23DQPq4GVKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> PPS I was able to install 2008 (pre R2) without issue on this same box.
>>
>
>
> Then I'm not sure where the problem is. If you said you've read articles
> regarding others having the same problem, what specifically do they say?
> Can you share the links? It would be helpful to see what you've found.
>
> I found a few links, two of them posted below, that state dcpromo fails on
> 2008 R2 (whereas previous versions will allow it although they complain)
> due to the server having one or more interfaces set to use a DHCP address.
> I assume you have static addresses set? I also would suggest and assume
> you haven't yet installed RRAS roles. If there are two NICs that are not
> teamed, I would also suggest to disable one of them or install the NIC
> software from the vendor to team them, and give the team a static config.
>
> Server 2008 R2: dcpromo fails because of dynamic IP addresses ...3 posts -
> 2 authors - Last post: Sep 23
> Server 2008 R2: dcpromo fails because of dynamic IP addresses ... I added
> the AD DS role to my Windows Server 2008 R2 installation and ran ...
> http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/servercoreford evelopers/thread/c2adebf5-60c7-47e2-b255-9a650a58141d
>
> Server 2008 R2: dcpromo fails because of dynamic IP addresses ...3 posts -
> 2 authors - Last post: Sep 15
> I added the AD DS role to my Windows Server 2008 R2 installation and ran
> dcpromo... The installation process stopped in between because of ...
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsserv er2008r2networking/thread/de83d068-b49f-454b-9d72-f45f80bf10 70
>
> Possibly also disabling IPv6 prior to promotion, may help.
>
> Disabling IPv6 on Windows 2008 or Vista
> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/paulbergson/archive/2009/03/1 9/disabling-ipv6-on-windows-2008.aspx
>
> Ace
>
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #296866 is a reply to message #296803] Sat, 24 October 2009 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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FYI - this isn't a production system this is the system I use whenever I
want to test out a version of Windows Server, Exchange or SQL so if anyone
wants to remote in you are welcome to do so. I don't have anything on it
but Windows 2008 R2 X64 standard full install but I can install real VNC if
anyone likes.

My biggest concern is a that a client will need a 2008 server and if I
choose R2, I can't have this problem for a production system. I'll need
to set up some new 2008 servers soon and I'd prefer to use the latest
version of 2008 as it is supposed to offer some advantages over pre R2 but
so far I can't really do much with 2008 R2 till I get the DC working on it.

"Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
news:uGBnwKMVKHA.4780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23DQPq4GVKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> PPS I was able to install 2008 (pre R2) without issue on this same box.
>>
>
>
> Then I'm not sure where the problem is. If you said you've read articles
> regarding others having the same problem, what specifically do they say?
> Can you share the links? It would be helpful to see what you've found.
>
> I found a few links, two of them posted below, that state dcpromo fails on
> 2008 R2 (whereas previous versions will allow it although they complain)
> due to the server having one or more interfaces set to use a DHCP address.
> I assume you have static addresses set? I also would suggest and assume
> you haven't yet installed RRAS roles. If there are two NICs that are not
> teamed, I would also suggest to disable one of them or install the NIC
> software from the vendor to team them, and give the team a static config.
>
> Server 2008 R2: dcpromo fails because of dynamic IP addresses ...3 posts -
> 2 authors - Last post: Sep 23
> Server 2008 R2: dcpromo fails because of dynamic IP addresses ... I added
> the AD DS role to my Windows Server 2008 R2 installation and ran ...
> http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/servercoreford evelopers/thread/c2adebf5-60c7-47e2-b255-9a650a58141d
>
> Server 2008 R2: dcpromo fails because of dynamic IP addresses ...3 posts -
> 2 authors - Last post: Sep 15
> I added the AD DS role to my Windows Server 2008 R2 installation and ran
> dcpromo... The installation process stopped in between because of ...
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsserv er2008r2networking/thread/de83d068-b49f-454b-9d72-f45f80bf10 70
>
> Possibly also disabling IPv6 prior to promotion, may help.
>
> Disabling IPv6 on Windows 2008 or Vista
> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/paulbergson/archive/2009/03/1 9/disabling-ipv6-on-windows-2008.aspx
>
> Ace
>
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #296971 is a reply to message #296866] Sat, 24 October 2009 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> FYI - this isn't a production system this is the system I use whenever I
> want to test out a version of Windows Server, Exchange or SQL so if anyone
> wants to remote in you are welcome to do so. I don't have anything on it
> but Windows 2008 R2 X64 standard full install but I can install real VNC
> if anyone likes.
>
> My biggest concern is a that a client will need a 2008 server and if I
> choose R2, I can't have this problem for a production system. I'll need
> to set up some new 2008 servers soon and I'd prefer to use the latest
> version of 2008 as it is supposed to offer some advantages over pre R2 but
> so far I can't really do much with 2008 R2 till I get the DC working on
> it.
>

I've always waited a few months or more before offering the latest versions,
just to check out the latest buzz in the internet community so I know if
there are any issues to look for or keep in mind.

Sure, I would like to take a look, but if it is hanging on you during the
run and resulting boot, there isn't much I can do remotely other than not
being able to connect while booting, unless you have a console level
connection, such as a DRAC or Avocent IP KVM. I can give it a shot tomorrow.

Send me a private email...

Ace
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #297024 is a reply to message #296971] Sat, 24 October 2009 14:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for your offer. You are more than welcome if you have plenty of
spare time and are curious but as this isn't a production system I hate to
abuse your time.

I have spent nearly 10 hours on trying to run it on a standard setup, I did
install Windows 2008 R2 x64 in Hyper V on the same machine running Windows
2008 R2 x64 on the physical server (without running DCPROMO). DCPROMO on
the virtual system ran very quickly - about 1 minute. So I'm trying to
figure out what hardware it doesn't like. It also rebooted the virtual
system very quickly.

I tried installing the latest network driver just in case direct from Intel
on the physical server before running DCPromo on the non -virtual OS and it
still hung. I also tried disabling the onboard card and running it on a
loopback adapter - still hung.

"Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
news:O$SyVHOVKHA.2932@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:69B45007-F99C-4DE0-8339-BB171ADE6E5D@microsoft.com...
>> FYI - this isn't a production system this is the system I use whenever I
>> want to test out a version of Windows Server, Exchange or SQL so if
>> anyone wants to remote in you are welcome to do so. I don't have
>> anything on it but Windows 2008 R2 X64 standard full install but I can
>> install real VNC if anyone likes.
>>
>> My biggest concern is a that a client will need a 2008 server and if I
>> choose R2, I can't have this problem for a production system. I'll
>> need to set up some new 2008 servers soon and I'd prefer to use the
>> latest version of 2008 as it is supposed to offer some advantages over
>> pre R2 but so far I can't really do much with 2008 R2 till I get the DC
>> working on it.
>>
>
> I've always waited a few months or more before offering the latest
> versions, just to check out the latest buzz in the internet community so I
> know if there are any issues to look for or keep in mind.
>
> Sure, I would like to take a look, but if it is hanging on you during the
> run and resulting boot, there isn't much I can do remotely other than not
> being able to connect while booting, unless you have a console level
> connection, such as a DRAC or Avocent IP KVM. I can give it a shot
> tomorrow.
>
> Send me a private email...
>
> Ace
>
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #297107 is a reply to message #297024] Sat, 24 October 2009 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for your offer. You are more than welcome if you have plenty of
> spare time and are curious but as this isn't a production system I hate to
> abuse your time.
>
> I have spent nearly 10 hours on trying to run it on a standard setup, I
> did install Windows 2008 R2 x64 in Hyper V on the same machine running
> Windows 2008 R2 x64 on the physical server (without running DCPROMO).
> DCPROMO on the virtual system ran very quickly - about 1 minute. So I'm
> trying to figure out what hardware it doesn't like. It also rebooted
> the virtual system very quickly.
>
> I tried installing the latest network driver just in case direct from
> Intel on the physical server before running DCPromo on the non -virtual OS
> and it still hung. I also tried disabling the onboard card and running
> it on a loopback adapter - still hung.
>


Hmm, 10 hours? I can sympathize. I wouldn't have that kind of time to devote
to this, but will try a shot at a promotion. I am in the middle of a project
with an 11/2 deadline, so realistically thinking, I may be short on time to
offer.

Interesting that it worked in a virtual environment. I would be interested
knowing what hardware it doesn't like, too. Have you considered install an
older 3Com 100 B or C card instead of the loopback?

As for the machine, is it a vendor specific (Dell, HP, etc), or something
put together? What vendor CPU (sounds like an Intel reading back in the
thread) and controller type and version? How about the RAM?

Ace
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #297148 is a reply to message #297107] Sat, 24 October 2009 17:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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LOL - actually I did install a 3com 3c905C - couldn't find any drivers that
would work and Windows 2008 R2 doesn't recognize the hardware.

Considering that I disabled the intel Pro 1000 PL card completely and tried
just a loopback nic I'm thinking it isn't the network card but something
else - although what the heck other than the nic what dcpromo uses I have no
idea. I've run mem tests, installed new nic drivers, disabled all the
services possible, disabled ip6, among other things - really dang
frustrating. While obviously not everyone will encounter whatever hardware
issue I have it is mighty frustrating! :)

It is an intel motherboard - D975XBX latest bios BX97510J.86A, I disabled
the silicon image controller, sound, firewire, just using the intel ICH7R
controller. While it is an older system, it does run Windows 7 fine,
Window 2008 fine, and Windows 2008 R2 fine as long as I don't run dcpromo.

"Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
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> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:egf0qkOVKHA.4780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks for your offer. You are more than welcome if you have plenty of
>> spare time and are curious but as this isn't a production system I hate
>> to abuse your time.
>>
>> I have spent nearly 10 hours on trying to run it on a standard setup, I
>> did install Windows 2008 R2 x64 in Hyper V on the same machine running
>> Windows 2008 R2 x64 on the physical server (without running DCPROMO).
>> DCPROMO on the virtual system ran very quickly - about 1 minute. So I'm
>> trying to figure out what hardware it doesn't like. It also rebooted
>> the virtual system very quickly.
>>
>> I tried installing the latest network driver just in case direct from
>> Intel on the physical server before running DCPromo on the non -virtual
>> OS and it still hung. I also tried disabling the onboard card and
>> running it on a loopback adapter - still hung.
>>
>
>
> Hmm, 10 hours? I can sympathize. I wouldn't have that kind of time to
> devote to this, but will try a shot at a promotion. I am in the middle of
> a project with an 11/2 deadline, so realistically thinking, I may be
> short on time to offer.
>
> Interesting that it worked in a virtual environment. I would be interested
> knowing what hardware it doesn't like, too. Have you considered install an
> older 3Com 100 B or C card instead of the loopback?
>
> As for the machine, is it a vendor specific (Dell, HP, etc), or something
> put together? What vendor CPU (sounds like an Intel reading back in the
> thread) and controller type and version? How about the RAM?
>
> Ace
>
>
>
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #297334 is a reply to message #297148] Sat, 24 October 2009 23:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> LOL - actually I did install a 3com 3c905C - couldn't find any drivers
> that would work and Windows 2008 R2 doesn't recognize the hardware.
>
> Considering that I disabled the intel Pro 1000 PL card completely and
> tried just a loopback nic I'm thinking it isn't the network card but
> something else - although what the heck other than the nic what dcpromo
> uses I have no idea. I've run mem tests, installed new nic drivers,
> disabled all the services possible, disabled ip6, among other things -
> really dang frustrating. While obviously not everyone will encounter
> whatever hardware issue I have it is mighty frustrating! :)
>
> It is an intel motherboard - D975XBX latest bios BX97510J.86A, I disabled
> the silicon image controller, sound, firewire, just using the intel ICH7R
> controller. While it is an older system, it does run Windows 7 fine,
> Window 2008 fine, and Windows 2008 R2 fine as long as I don't run dcpromo.
>

I couldn't remember the NIC card model number, but yea, that't the one I was
thinking of! Kind of surprised it didn't recognize the 3c905C card. It was
one of the most popular cards in it's day.

You know, I don't have much faith in those memory tests. I've seen memory
being the problem where those superduper memory testers, whether software or
physically pulling out the ram and sticking it in one of those devices says
it passes, yet put it back in the machine and they fail, yet when you
completely swap them out with another either new set or from another
machine, and it runs like a charm. So I don't take much stock in memory
tests, unless it is totally obvious that some circuit on the chip is
foobar'd.

How about disabling the TCP Chimney feature that offloads functions to the
card? Read my blog to see what I mean.

TCP Chimney and RSS Features May Cause Slow File Transfers or Cause
Connectivity Problems
http://msmvps.com/blogs/acefekay/archive/2009/08/20/tcp-chim ney-and-rss-features-may-cause-slow-file-transfers-or-cause- connectivity-problems.aspx

Ace
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #297500 is a reply to message #297334] Sun, 25 October 2009 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks - I have 2 GB of one type of memory available for that system and
2GB of another type. I tried with just 2 GB of one and dcpromo failed. I
tried with 2GB of another type but that also failed. While it is possible
it doesn't like any of the memory I' thinking that might not be it although
short of buying more memory I have no way of knowing. Just that my system
has never had an issue before and I often use 3 plus gigs of memory on this
system.

I also tried disabling the chimney unfortunately no luck.

At this point my gut tells me it doesn't like something about the processor
or more likely the motherboard although I have no basis for this, it is just
my feeling. I tried disabling lots and lots of things in device manager
that aren't necessary to run the system but dcpromo still fails.

"Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
news:egKsBRTVKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:A237A221-4CDF-4051-AD19-4A8E910098F9@microsoft.com...
>> LOL - actually I did install a 3com 3c905C - couldn't find any drivers
>> that would work and Windows 2008 R2 doesn't recognize the hardware.
>>
>> Considering that I disabled the intel Pro 1000 PL card completely and
>> tried just a loopback nic I'm thinking it isn't the network card but
>> something else - although what the heck other than the nic what dcpromo
>> uses I have no idea. I've run mem tests, installed new nic drivers,
>> disabled all the services possible, disabled ip6, among other things -
>> really dang frustrating. While obviously not everyone will encounter
>> whatever hardware issue I have it is mighty frustrating! :)
>>
>> It is an intel motherboard - D975XBX latest bios BX97510J.86A, I disabled
>> the silicon image controller, sound, firewire, just using the intel ICH7R
>> controller. While it is an older system, it does run Windows 7 fine,
>> Window 2008 fine, and Windows 2008 R2 fine as long as I don't run
>> dcpromo.
>>
>
> I couldn't remember the NIC card model number, but yea, that't the one I
> was thinking of! Kind of surprised it didn't recognize the 3c905C card. It
> was one of the most popular cards in it's day.
>
> You know, I don't have much faith in those memory tests. I've seen memory
> being the problem where those superduper memory testers, whether software
> or physically pulling out the ram and sticking it in one of those devices
> says it passes, yet put it back in the machine and they fail, yet when you
> completely swap them out with another either new set or from another
> machine, and it runs like a charm. So I don't take much stock in memory
> tests, unless it is totally obvious that some circuit on the chip is
> foobar'd.
>
> How about disabling the TCP Chimney feature that offloads functions to the
> card? Read my blog to see what I mean.
>
> TCP Chimney and RSS Features May Cause Slow File Transfers or Cause
> Connectivity Problems
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/acefekay/archive/2009/08/20/tcp-chim ney-and-rss-features-may-cause-slow-file-transfers-or-cause- connectivity-problems.aspx
>
> Ace
>
>
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #297609 is a reply to message #297500] Sun, 25 October 2009 10:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks - I have 2 GB of one type of memory available for that system and
> 2GB of another type. I tried with just 2 GB of one and dcpromo failed.
> I tried with 2GB of another type but that also failed. While it is
> possible it doesn't like any of the memory I' thinking that might not be
> it although short of buying more memory I have no way of knowing. Just
> that my system has never had an issue before and I often use 3 plus gigs
> of memory on this system.
>
> I also tried disabling the chimney unfortunately no luck.
>
> At this point my gut tells me it doesn't like something about the
> processor or more likely the motherboard although I have no basis for
> this, it is just my feeling. I tried disabling lots and lots of things
> in device manager that aren't necessary to run the system but dcpromo
> still fails.
>

Looks like we're batting a 1000 here. We've pretty much covered everything.
Oh, I assume (and don't see why you would have disabled it), that the DHCP
Client Service is running. A misnomer, it deals with registration and
resolution.

Ace
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #297624 is a reply to message #297609] Sun, 25 October 2009 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks - I tried turning off as many services as possible and that didn't
help (I only enabled the ones that DCPROMO complained about as I ran it).
I also tried leaving the default services running (the ones that run when
install windows server 2008R2) and that as enabled by default.

"Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
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> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2BB2489F-C883-43D9-9AB0-97001D6A3B69@microsoft.com...
>> Thanks - I have 2 GB of one type of memory available for that system and
>> 2GB of another type. I tried with just 2 GB of one and dcpromo failed.
>> I tried with 2GB of another type but that also failed. While it is
>> possible it doesn't like any of the memory I' thinking that might not be
>> it although short of buying more memory I have no way of knowing. Just
>> that my system has never had an issue before and I often use 3 plus gigs
>> of memory on this system.
>>
>> I also tried disabling the chimney unfortunately no luck.
>>
>> At this point my gut tells me it doesn't like something about the
>> processor or more likely the motherboard although I have no basis for
>> this, it is just my feeling. I tried disabling lots and lots of things
>> in device manager that aren't necessary to run the system but dcpromo
>> still fails.
>>
>
> Looks like we're batting a 1000 here. We've pretty much covered
> everything. Oh, I assume (and don't see why you would have disabled it),
> that the DHCP Client Service is running. A misnomer, it deals with
> registration and resolution.
>
> Ace
>
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"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks - I tried turning off as many services as possible and that didn't
> help (I only enabled the ones that DCPROMO complained about as I ran it).
> I also tried leaving the default services running (the ones that run when
> install windows server 2008R2) and that as enabled by default.
>


Ok, but just keep in mind the DHCP CLient (not the server service) is
required on all machines, or registration and name lookups will be disabled.
I've seen IT folks disable it thinking they didn't need it because the
machine has a fixed IP, but like I said, it's a misnomer. I think this
service should be called the DNS Dynamic Registration and Client Side
Resolver Service.

:-)

Ace
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #297786 is a reply to message #297713] Sun, 25 October 2009 14:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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LOL - OK - I'll try to remember it. Frankly I'm a pretty vanilla kind of
guy. If the system works I don't change a lot of MS defaults for services.
If something doesn't work properly I might set something for delayed but
usually when I initially set up a system everything is the default and I'm
pretty sure dhcp client is on by default.

"Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
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> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Oas30WZVKHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks - I tried turning off as many services as possible and that didn't
>> help (I only enabled the ones that DCPROMO complained about as I ran it).
>> I also tried leaving the default services running (the ones that run when
>> install windows server 2008R2) and that as enabled by default.
>>
>
>
> Ok, but just keep in mind the DHCP CLient (not the server service) is
> required on all machines, or registration and name lookups will be
> disabled. I've seen IT folks disable it thinking they didn't need it
> because the machine has a fixed IP, but like I said, it's a misnomer. I
> think this service should be called the DNS Dynamic Registration and
> Client Side Resolver Service.
>
> :-)
>
> Ace
>
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> LOL - OK - I'll try to remember it. Frankly I'm a pretty vanilla kind of
> guy. If the system works I don't change a lot of MS defaults for
> services. If something doesn't work properly I might set something for
> delayed but usually when I initially set up a system everything is the
> default and I'm pretty sure dhcp client is on by default.
>



Cool. Now back to the issue. I'm at a loss at this point. Have you tried
anything new?

Ace
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #298312 is a reply to message #296049] Mon, 26 October 2009 06:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What does debug/dcpromo.log and debug/Netlogon.log have in it?

When you disabled IPv6 did you disable toreno?
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/paulbergson/archive/2009/03/1 9/disabling-ipv6-on-windows-2008.aspx


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"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I'm not an expert on the subject but I have set up about 15 2008 servers
> and run DCPROMO without seeing this issue. I have a 2008 R2 server -
> just formatted from scratch, applied the 8 or so patches from Windows
> update. I'm attempting to set up a brand new domain - new everything and
> it has started the DC Promo process. I've set it for 2003 functional
> level. It says currently Configuring the local computer to host Active
> Directory Services. I realize it said set up can take from a few minutes
> to several hours but I've never ever seen it take more than 10 minutes to
> do dcpromo before. This is a standalone server running 2008 R2 x64 RTM
> on a system with a 3 GHz core 2 processor and 4GB of RAM on a freshly
> formatted 500GB hard drive with probably 95% free.
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I'm at a loss - short of hiring a Shaman I'm about ready to admit defeat.
I'm pretty sure now it has to do with the processor or the motherboard
perhaps a built in USB port or some such thing - I'll just have to run
virtual 2008R2 on top of 2008R2 if I want to run dcpromo.

"Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
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> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:09E35012-76F9-4B52-B936-A89603A40213@microsoft.com...
>> LOL - OK - I'll try to remember it. Frankly I'm a pretty vanilla kind
>> of guy. If the system works I don't change a lot of MS defaults for
>> services. If something doesn't work properly I might set something for
>> delayed but usually when I initially set up a system everything is the
>> default and I'm pretty sure dhcp client is on by default.
>>
>
>
>
> Cool. Now back to the issue. I'm at a loss at this point. Have you tried
> anything new?
>
> Ace
>
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> I'm at a loss - short of hiring a Shaman I'm about ready to admit defeat.
> I'm pretty sure now it has to do with the processor or the motherboard
> perhaps a built in USB port or some such thing - I'll just have to run
> virtual 2008R2 on top of 2008R2 if I want to run dcpromo.
>


I had to look up Shaman - in short, a healer! Witch doctor? Reminds me of
Gilligan's Island. :-)

I would just do that, run it in a VM for now. You can use the host as a
file/print or whatever else server, but as for a DC, since it's just
authenticating, etc, it wouldn't hurt to keep it in a VM.

Curious if you had another new server laying around (like everyone has one
in their closet!) to try it on and see if it works.

Ace
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He's typically the medicine man for American Indians. Sometimes said to
have spiritual powers. - Sorry for the odd reference. Denver Airport
hired one to fix their screwed up baggage handling system. They were
pretty sure it was caused by bad juju

If I get overly ambitious I'll set it up on my main PC this weekend - I'm
willing to be it will work but I could be wrong.

"Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
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> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:F0C5E621-12D9-4FFC-8089-AB8088E80215@microsoft.com...
>> I'm at a loss - short of hiring a Shaman I'm about ready to admit defeat.
>> I'm pretty sure now it has to do with the processor or the motherboard
>> perhaps a built in USB port or some such thing - I'll just have to run
>> virtual 2008R2 on top of 2008R2 if I want to run dcpromo.
>>
>
>
> I had to look up Shaman - in short, a healer! Witch doctor? Reminds me of
> Gilligan's Island. :-)
>
> I would just do that, run it in a VM for now. You can use the host as a
> file/print or whatever else server, but as for a DC, since it's just
> authenticating, etc, it wouldn't hurt to keep it in a VM.
>
> Curious if you had another new server laying around (like everyone has one
> in their closet!) to try it on and see if it works.
>
> Ace
>
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"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> He's typically the medicine man for American Indians. Sometimes said to
> have spiritual powers. - Sorry for the odd reference. Denver Airport
> hired one to fix their screwed up baggage handling system. They were
> pretty sure it was caused by bad juju
>
> If I get overly ambitious I'll set it up on my main PC this weekend - I'm
> willing to be it will work but I could be wrong.

No problem about the reference. I just didn't know what it meant and had to
look it up. My reference to Gilligan's Island was in jest and hopefully not
taken any other way.

Then again, I can save you time and money and send you some magical pixie
dust to sprinkle over it.

And I'm willing to bet your PC will work. :-

Ace
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Nothing wrong with referencing Giligan's Island - my friends and I still
quote Thurston - "heavens, he must be a Yale man!"

"Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
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> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OJ7K0XnVKHA.3720@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> He's typically the medicine man for American Indians. Sometimes said to
>> have spiritual powers. - Sorry for the odd reference. Denver Airport
>> hired one to fix their screwed up baggage handling system. They were
>> pretty sure it was caused by bad juju
>>
>> If I get overly ambitious I'll set it up on my main PC this weekend - I'm
>> willing to be it will work but I could be wrong.
>
> No problem about the reference. I just didn't know what it meant and had
> to look it up. My reference to Gilligan's Island was in jest and hopefully
> not taken any other way.
>
> Then again, I can save you time and money and send you some magical pixie
> dust to sprinkle over it.
>
> And I'm willing to bet your PC will work. :-
>
> Ace
>
>
>
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"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Nothing wrong with referencing Giligan's Island - my friends and I still
> quote Thurston - "heavens, he must be a Yale man!"
>


I remember that! LOL. Good ole' Thurston the Harvard man. :-) I used to
watch the reruns when I was a kid. I liked the one with the radioactive
fruit and vegetable crate showed up. Gilligan ate the spinach and was able
to pick up tree trunks! :-)

Anyway, back to the issue. So what are your plans? To install it into a
virtual machine?

Ace
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My plans are to hook up with MaryAnne. After that, give the Skipper a box
of nails made of plastique and watch the fun.

Seriously though, I'm just going to accept (for now) that there is a
hardware compatibility issue with my system and 2008 R2. I would imagine
any client I set this up for will have a poweredge made in the last 3 years
and I'm sure they'll make whatever bios updates necessary to resolve the
issue or MS will have a patch. I can't imagine too many people are using
desktops as servers so the fault lies with myself, not in my stars.

I appreciate the tips and I think we've exhausted all possible solutions.
Since it was a test platform for me to review R2 and Exchange 2010 I've seen
what I need to. I am seeing some glitches between the two so I don't think
they are quite ready for prime time but I think it will be ready in a couple
of months. Unfortunately glitches aside, I'll admit out of all the
features I was hoping for in Exchange 2010 - mailbox sizes in the EMC gui
was at the top of the list - very saddened they didn't put it back in. And
I doubt it will be back even when SP2 comes out for 2010. There are a few
new features in 2010 I like but for some reason so many things weren't
thought out it really boggles the brain. Like calendar and contacts
sharing in the EMC- they only put in half the equation - whose calendars are
shared - but they forgot to set viewable by whom as modifiable - it is all
or nothing - tragic. My needs for the OS are fewer - speed, security and
speed - did I mention speed? (sure I want DHCP, ADS, DNS, GP, etc - I'm
pretty happy with R2 so not much to say). Exchange 2010 however they
create archives - great idea! But they keep the archives in the same
database as the user database - WTF!?! They add in message threading in
the OWA- GREAT! However they take away the option to view messages at the
bottom which I would say more that 80% of the clients I support prefer.

Why must MS always take away a feature for every couple of features they
add? They only alienate their own clients. It's like the ribbon in
Office 2007 - I have no problem with using the ribbon but nearly half my
clients don't want Office 2007 because they don't want to learn how to find
what they've been using for 15 years all over again. MS could have just
offered an option on install - classic or ribbon. MS sales are down not
because of the economy but because MS won't listen. The adds for Windows 7
make it sound like MS listens - I'd love to see MS execs post here/technet
saying we'd like the MVPs to send us their top 15 issues with the product
you field questions for. No confinement whatsoever - free form your answer
and we'll actually have our engineers read the responses. I beta tested
Vista for MS - not one of the survey's I filled out ever let me freeform an
answer so I couldn't just say - it is SLOW, it eats up video memory, network
performance is wretched... Instead I filled out useful questions like from
1 to 5 - 1 being very good to 5 being perfect - how would you rate the start
menu. It was like they were asking survey questions that could only tell
them they were doing a great job.

"Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
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> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:B1C9DAEB-B476-4B5E-9A5A-185F517D882C@microsoft.com...
>> Nothing wrong with referencing Giligan's Island - my friends and I still
>> quote Thurston - "heavens, he must be a Yale man!"
>>
>
>
> I remember that! LOL. Good ole' Thurston the Harvard man. :-) I used to
> watch the reruns when I was a kid. I liked the one with the radioactive
> fruit and vegetable crate showed up. Gilligan ate the spinach and was able
> to pick up tree trunks! :-)
>
> Anyway, back to the issue. So what are your plans? To install it into a
> virtual machine?
>
> Ace
>
>
>
>
>
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Once I actually run DCPROMO, I can never get my system to boot, even with
save/recovery/disable sigs.

"Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@no_spammsn.com> wrote in message
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> What does debug/dcpromo.log and debug/Netlogon.log have in it?
>
> When you disabled IPv6 did you disable toreno?
> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/paulbergson/archive/2009/03/1 9/disabling-ipv6-on-windows-2008.aspx
>
>
> --
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> MVP - Directory Services
> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
> Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009
>
> http://www.pbbergs.com
>
> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
> posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0E2DB04A-67D1-4D22-B5C0-1EE0FB513416@microsoft.com...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm not an expert on the subject but I have set up about 15 2008 servers
>> and run DCPROMO without seeing this issue. I have a 2008 R2 server -
>> just formatted from scratch, applied the 8 or so patches from Windows
>> update. I'm attempting to set up a brand new domain - new everything and
>> it has started the DC Promo process. I've set it for 2003 functional
>> level. It says currently Configuring the local computer to host Active
>> Directory Services. I realize it said set up can take from a few
>> minutes to several hours but I've never ever seen it take more than 10
>> minutes to do dcpromo before. This is a standalone server running 2008
>> R2 x64 RTM on a system with a 3 GHz core 2 processor and 4GB of RAM on a
>> freshly formatted 500GB hard drive with probably 95% free.
>
>
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Are you able to go back and look at the logs I pointed to earlier or the
Event logs? This should give you some type of clue.

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"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Once I actually run DCPROMO, I can never get my system to boot, even with
> save/recovery/disable sigs.
>
> "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@no_spammsn.com> wrote in message
> news:ejxJSkjVKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> What does debug/dcpromo.log and debug/Netlogon.log have in it?
>>
>> When you disabled IPv6 did you disable toreno?
>> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/paulbergson/archive/2009/03/1 9/disabling-ipv6-on-windows-2008.aspx
>>
>>
>> --
>> Paul Bergson
>> MVP - Directory Services
>> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
>> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
>> Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009
>>
>> http://www.pbbergs.com
>>
>> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
>> posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>>
>> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:0E2DB04A-67D1-4D22-B5C0-1EE0FB513416@microsoft.com...
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm not an expert on the subject but I have set up about 15 2008 servers
>>> and run DCPROMO without seeing this issue. I have a 2008 R2 server -
>>> just formatted from scratch, applied the 8 or so patches from Windows
>>> update. I'm attempting to set up a brand new domain - new everything and
>>> it has started the DC Promo process. I've set it for 2003 functional
>>> level. It says currently Configuring the local computer to host Active
>>> Directory Services. I realize it said set up can take from a few
>>> minutes to several hours but I've never ever seen it take more than 10
>>> minutes to do dcpromo before. This is a standalone server running 2008
>>> R2 x64 RTM on a system with a 3 GHz core 2 processor and 4GB of RAM on a
>>> freshly formatted 500GB hard drive with probably 95% free.
>>
>>
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"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> My plans are to hook up with MaryAnne. After that, give the Skipper a
> box of nails made of plastique and watch the fun.

That was a good episode@ LOL!

> Seriously though, I'm just going to accept (for now) that there is a
> hardware compatibility issue with my system and 2008 R2. I would imagine
> any client I set this up for will have a poweredge made in the last 3
> years and I'm sure they'll make whatever bios updates necessary to resolve
> the issue or MS will have a patch. I can't imagine too many people are
> using desktops as servers so the fault lies with myself, not in my stars.

All of my customers are using Dell PEs, of course with my recommendations,
except for one, which already had two HPs in place. However, I don't have an
additional one at this time to test a 2008 R2 installation on one of them.

>
> I appreciate the tips and I think we've exhausted all possible solutions.
> Since it was a test platform for me to review R2 and Exchange 2010 I've
> seen what I need to. I am seeing some glitches between the two so I
> don't think they are quite ready for prime time but I think it will be
> ready in a couple of months.

I think Exchange 2010 is ready, however I have not tested 2008 R2 yet.

> Unfortunately glitches aside, I'll admit out of all the features I was
> hoping for in Exchange 2010 - mailbox sizes in the EMC gui was at the top
> of the list - very saddened they didn't put it back in. And I doubt it
> will be back even when SP2 comes out for 2010.

Power Shell!! :-)

> There are a few new features in 2010 I like but for some reason so many
> things weren't thought out it really boggles the brain. Like calendar
> and contacts sharing in the EMC- they only put in half the equation -
> whose calendars are shared - but they forgot to set viewable by whom as
> modifiable - it is all or nothing - tragic.

Power Shell, again! You can creat scripts to pull that data, but I know you
already know that. :-)

> My needs for the OS are fewer - speed, security and speed - did I mention
> speed? (sure I want DHCP, ADS, DNS, GP, etc - I'm pretty happy with R2 so
> not much to say). Exchange 2010 however they create archives - great
> idea! But they keep the archives in the same database as the user
> database - WTF!?! They add in message threading in the OWA- GREAT!
> However they take away the option to view messages at the bottom which I
> would say more that 80% of the clients I support prefer.

I can understand some of the give and take (compromises) that we will all be
going through.

Have you thought about posting some of these gripes/observations to the
Exchange newsgroups?

>
> Why must MS always take away a feature for every couple of features they
> add? They only alienate their own clients. It's like the ribbon in
> Office 2007 - I have no problem with using the ribbon but nearly half my
> clients don't want Office 2007 because they don't want to learn how to
> find what they've been using for 15 years all over again. MS could have
> just offered an option on install - classic or ribbon. MS sales are down
> not because of the economy but because MS won't listen. The adds for
> Windows 7 make it sound like MS listens - I'd love to see MS execs post
> here/technet saying we'd like the MVPs to send us their top 15 issues with
> the product you field questions for. No confinement whatsoever - free
> form your answer and we'll actually have our engineers read the responses.
> I beta tested Vista for MS - not one of the survey's I filled out ever let
> me freeform an answer so I couldn't just say - it is SLOW, it eats up
> video memory, network performance is wretched... Instead I filled out
> useful questions like from 1 to 5 - 1 being very good to 5 being perfect -
> how would you rate the start menu. It was like they were asking survey
> questions that could only tell them they were doing a great job.

I like Office 2007, however I'm not thrilled about Vista. I mean I teach the
Vista courses, etc, but that's my own personal opinion. I do however, like
Windows 7. I just setup a 7 box for a customer and using XP Mode. Pretty
cool.

Ace
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Yep - posted these request when I beta tested Exchange 2007. And put the
new requests such as who gets access to whose calendars for 2010 in the
technet forums.

I have to be honest - I HATE powershell. I have a very bad memory so
clicking through a gui to see mailbox sizes in 2003 was wonderful. Now I
have to put the command for it in my knowledgebase and look it up every time
I want to look - which I don't do as often since I have to look up the
command just to do it :) I see no reason not to leave that function in the
GUI. I've seen a ton of posts on the same thing - unfortunately getting
MS's attention is difficult. I often can't figure out the object of the
command I'm supposed to enter - one of the reasons I like GUI so much - I
don't have to figure out what the identity or whatever the command needs is.
I suppose if all I did was administer servers I'd probably get more
comfortable with it but I have a few thousand workstations, several hundred
phones, billing, meetings etc. to deal with. If I had a better memory that
would help me a lot too :) I guess MS doesn't really think about it from
the point of view of multiple hat administrators but it seems like we are
the ones who post the most about how much we hate powershell. I realize
the new DOS commands are all powerful new features according to MS but I
consider them just MS's way of saying - hey it was too much work and we
didn't get a chance to finish the GUI so you can just learn how to do what
you used to be able to do with a mouse click by typing tons of code - enjoy!

I do appreciate the time you took trying to help me with this issue.

Likewise on the PE - they are pretty much the only server I recommend. A
university I sometimes work for often buys the servers before I recommend
them so I have to deal with HPs as well but I prefer Dell's. Probably
partially because I hated Compaq servers and associate the two :)

"Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
news:OTQdC1zVKHA.2932@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:19F504AF-E361-47BC-B444-18A95D21D1C8@microsoft.com...
>> My plans are to hook up with MaryAnne. After that, give the Skipper a
>> box of nails made of plastique and watch the fun.
>
> That was a good episode@ LOL!
>
>> Seriously though, I'm just going to accept (for now) that there is a
>> hardware compatibility issue with my system and 2008 R2. I would
>> imagine any client I set this up for will have a poweredge made in the
>> last 3 years and I'm sure they'll make whatever bios updates necessary to
>> resolve the issue or MS will have a patch. I can't imagine too many
>> people are using desktops as servers so the fault lies with myself, not
>> in my stars.
>
> All of my customers are using Dell PEs, of course with my recommendations,
> except for one, which already had two HPs in place. However, I don't have
> an additional one at this time to test a 2008 R2 installation on one of
> them.
>
>>
>> I appreciate the tips and I think we've exhausted all possible solutions.
>> Since it was a test platform for me to review R2 and Exchange 2010 I've
>> seen what I need to. I am seeing some glitches between the two so I
>> don't think they are quite ready for prime time but I think it will be
>> ready in a couple of months.
>
> I think Exchange 2010 is ready, however I have not tested 2008 R2 yet.
>
>> Unfortunately glitches aside, I'll admit out of all the features I was
>> hoping for in Exchange 2010 - mailbox sizes in the EMC gui was at the top
>> of the list - very saddened they didn't put it back in. And I doubt it
>> will be back even when SP2 comes out for 2010.
>
> Power Shell!! :-)
>
>> There are a few new features in 2010 I like but for some reason so many
>> things weren't thought out it really boggles the brain. Like calendar
>> and contacts sharing in the EMC- they only put in half the equation -
>> whose calendars are shared - but they forgot to set viewable by whom as
>> modifiable - it is all or nothing - tragic.
>
> Power Shell, again! You can creat scripts to pull that data, but I know
> you already know that. :-)
>
>> My needs for the OS are fewer - speed, security and speed - did I mention
>> speed? (sure I want DHCP, ADS, DNS, GP, etc - I'm pretty happy with R2 so
>> not much to say). Exchange 2010 however they create archives - great
>> idea! But they keep the archives in the same database as the user
>> database - WTF!?! They add in message threading in the OWA- GREAT!
>> However they take away the option to view messages at the bottom which I
>> would say more that 80% of the clients I support prefer.
>
> I can understand some of the give and take (compromises) that we will all
> be going through.
>
> Have you thought about posting some of these gripes/observations to the
> Exchange newsgroups?
>
>>
>> Why must MS always take away a feature for every couple of features they
>> add? They only alienate their own clients. It's like the ribbon in
>> Office 2007 - I have no problem with using the ribbon but nearly half my
>> clients don't want Office 2007 because they don't want to learn how to
>> find what they've been using for 15 years all over again. MS could
>> have just offered an option on install - classic or ribbon. MS sales
>> are down not because of the economy but because MS won't listen. The
>> adds for Windows 7 make it sound like MS listens - I'd love to see MS
>> execs post here/technet saying we'd like the MVPs to send us their top 15
>> issues with the product you field questions for. No confinement
>> whatsoever - free form your answer and we'll actually have our engineers
>> read the responses. I beta tested Vista for MS - not one of the survey's
>> I filled out ever let me freeform an answer so I couldn't just say - it
>> is SLOW, it eats up video memory, network performance is wretched...
>> Instead I filled out useful questions like from 1 to 5 - 1 being very
>> good to 5 being perfect - how would you rate the start menu. It was
>> like they were asking survey questions that could only tell them they
>> were doing a great job.
>
> I like Office 2007, however I'm not thrilled about Vista. I mean I teach
> the Vista courses, etc, but that's my own personal opinion. I do however,
> like Windows 7. I just setup a 7 box for a customer and using XP Mode.
> Pretty cool.
>
> Ace
>
>
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #300995 is a reply to message #300864] Wed, 28 October 2009 09:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
aceman  is currently offline aceman  United States
Messages: 5816
Registered: July 2009
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"boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:761BA3E3-D53A-4C0B-9AF4-CB76FD89B679@microsoft.com...
> Yep - posted these request when I beta tested Exchange 2007. And put
> the new requests such as who gets access to whose calendars for 2010 in
> the technet forums.
>
> I have to be honest - I HATE powershell. I have a very bad memory so
> clicking through a gui to see mailbox sizes in 2003 was wonderful. Now I
> have to put the command for it in my knowledgebase and look it up every
> time I want to look - which I don't do as often since I have to look up
> the command just to do it :) I see no reason not to leave that function
> in the GUI. I've seen a ton of posts on the same thing - unfortunately
> getting MS's attention is difficult. I often can't figure out the object
> of the command I'm supposed to enter - one of the reasons I like GUI so
> much - I don't have to figure out what the identity or whatever the
> command needs is. I suppose if all I did was administer servers I'd
> probably get more comfortable with it but I have a few thousand
> workstations, several hundred phones, billing, meetings etc. to deal with.
> If I had a better memory that would help me a lot too :) I guess MS
> doesn't really think about it from the point of view of multiple hat
> administrators but it seems like we are the ones who post the most about
> how much we hate powershell. I realize the new DOS commands are all
> powerful new features according to MS but I consider them just MS's way of
> saying - hey it was too much work and we didn't get a chance to finish the
> GUI so you can just learn how to do what you used to be able to do with a
> mouse click by typing tons of code - enjoy!
>
> I do appreciate the time you took trying to help me with this issue.
>
> Likewise on the PE - they are pretty much the only server I recommend. A
> university I sometimes work for often buys the servers before I recommend
> them so I have to deal with HPs as well but I prefer Dell's. Probably
> partially because I hated Compaq servers and associate the two :)
>

I have a script/command archive going that has been building up in the
almost past two years, that I have to look back everytime I need a command
with it's syntax. I also have a 'diagnostic logging' PS script, that allows
to set diag logging on a server. When run, a popup shows up that looks like
Exchange 2003's diagnotic logging tab in server properties. It's 257k. If
you like a copy, email me. Too large to post here.

Hang in there with the scripting. Unfortunately you will have to get used to
it! :-)

And I agree, I did not like Compaq either, and I seem to picture an
association with HP and Compaq now. Dells are easy to work on, and reliable.
:-)

Ace
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #301344 is a reply to message #299589] Wed, 28 October 2009 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
boe  is currently offline boe
Messages: 91
Registered: July 2009
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No, I'm afraid I can't.

"Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@no_spammsn.com> wrote in message
news:#41hV5vVKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Are you able to go back and look at the logs I pointed to earlier or the
> Event logs? This should give you some type of clue.
>
> --
> Paul Bergson
> MVP - Directory Services
> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
> Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009
>
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>
> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
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>
> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:BAF2E5E8-6D5C-4D21-A1B7-C937F9959D02@microsoft.com...
>> Once I actually run DCPROMO, I can never get my system to boot, even with
>> save/recovery/disable sigs.
>>
>> "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@no_spammsn.com> wrote in message
>> news:ejxJSkjVKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> What does debug/dcpromo.log and debug/Netlogon.log have in it?
>>>
>>> When you disabled IPv6 did you disable toreno?
>>> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/paulbergson/archive/2009/03/1 9/disabling-ipv6-on-windows-2008.aspx
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Paul Bergson
>>> MVP - Directory Services
>>> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
>>> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
>>> Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009
>>>
>>> http://www.pbbergs.com
>>>
>>> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
>>> posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>>>
>>> "boe" <boe_d@nospammyhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:0E2DB04A-67D1-4D22-B5C0-1EE0FB513416@microsoft.com...
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I'm not an expert on the subject but I have set up about 15 2008
>>>> servers and run DCPROMO without seeing this issue. I have a 2008 R2
>>>> server - just formatted from scratch, applied the 8 or so patches from
>>>> Windows update. I'm attempting to set up a brand new domain - new
>>>> everything and it has started the DC Promo process. I've set it for
>>>> 2003 functional level. It says currently Configuring the local
>>>> computer to host Active Directory Services. I realize it said set up
>>>> can take from a few minutes to several hours but I've never ever seen
>>>> it take more than 10 minutes to do dcpromo before. This is a
>>>> standalone server running 2008 R2 x64 RTM on a system with a 3 GHz core
>>>> 2 processor and 4GB of RAM on a freshly formatted 500GB hard drive with
>>>> probably 95% free.
>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #338977 is a reply to message #301344] Wed, 09 December 2009 01:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
r_deckard  is currently offline r_deckard  United States
Messages: 1
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Junior Member
Hi
It seems I have the same issue as boe.

I'm running a Windows Server 2003 R2 x86 (as DC) at home for testing,
learning and using it as a fileserver for my media library.

I bought und built a new server with desktop components for replacing
the old server. After successfully migrating to the new server, I've
planned to use the old server as a offline backup server (only member
server, maybe with OpenSolaris and ZFS).

Hardware of the new server is the following:
- Biostar TA790GX A3+ Motherboard (AMD 790GX with integrated graphics)
- AMD Athlon II X4 620 Processor
- 2x2 GB DDR3 RAM
- 3ware 9650SE SATA-II RAID controller
- older Maxtor 160 GB IDE harddisk for system
- 7 WD 2 TB green SATA drives for RAID6 set

I've done the following steps:
- installing Windows Server 2008 R2 as a member server (joining to the
existing domain). All drivers were default (from the box), except for
the RAID-controller. Everything was fine and worked as expected.
- prepared the AD from my old server to 2008 (with adprep32)
- started dcpromo on the new server (DNS option included) yesterday
evening

Last part of dcpromo wizard stayed very long (more than 20 Min.), so I
went to bed. This morning, before going to work, I checked the progress.
It had finnished and looked good.
Restarted the server, but after a long time in boot phase, the recovery
mode appeared automatically.
Just shutdowned and powered of the server and tried it again. But the
same result. Server is not starting to the logon window.

So, it looks like the same issue as you guys are discussing here.

Unfortunately, it seems theres no solution yet. I will trying some
different setups in the next days, but don't have much hope.


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Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #339000 is a reply to message #338977] Wed, 09 December 2009 02:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
meiweb  is currently offline meiweb  Germany
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Hello r_deckard,

Even it sounds the same please create your own posting. Additional i suggest
to use the Windows server 2008 R2 forum instead this newsgroup. Please include
all detail steps you have done, including adprep logfile and dcpromo logfile.
Additional an unedited ipconfig /all from both servers and the DNS domain
name NEtBios domain name and name listed in AD UC.

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-us/windowsserv er2008r2general/threads

Best regards

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> Hi
> It seems I have the same issue as boe.
> I'm running a Windows Server 2003 R2 x86 (as DC) at home for testing,
> learning and using it as a fileserver for my media library.
>
> I bought und built a new server with desktop components for replacing
> the old server. After successfully migrating to the new server, I've
> planned to use the old server as a offline backup server (only member
> server, maybe with OpenSolaris and ZFS).
>
> Hardware of the new server is the following:
> - Biostar TA790GX A3+ Motherboard (AMD 790GX with integrated graphics)
> - AMD Athlon II X4 620 Processor
> - 2x2 GB DDR3 RAM
> - 3ware 9650SE SATA-II RAID controller
> - older Maxtor 160 GB IDE harddisk for system
> - 7 WD 2 TB green SATA drives for RAID6 set
> I've done the following steps:
> - installing Windows Server 2008 R2 as a member server (joining to the
> existing domain). All drivers were default (from the box), except for
> the RAID-controller. Everything was fine and worked as expected.
> - prepared the AD from my old server to 2008 (with adprep32)
> - started dcpromo on the new server (DNS option included) yesterday
> evening
> Last part of dcpromo wizard stayed very long (more than 20 Min.), so I
> went to bed. This morning, before going to work, I checked the
> progress.
> It had finnished and looked good.
> Restarted the server, but after a long time in boot phase, the
> recovery
> mode appeared automatically.
> Just shutdowned and powered of the server and tried it again. But the
> same result. Server is not starting to the logon window.
> So, it looks like the same issue as you guys are discussing here.
>
> Unfortunately, it seems theres no solution yet. I will trying some
> different setups in the next days, but don't have much hope.
>
> http://forums.techarena.in
>
Re: DCPROMO seems to be stuck - Windows Server 2008 R2 [message #339219 is a reply to message #338977] Wed, 09 December 2009 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
aceman  is currently offline aceman  United States
Messages: 5816
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"r_deckard" <r_deckard.42x47b@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
news:r_deckard.42x47b@DoNotSpam.com...
>
> Hi
> It seems I have the same issue as boe.
>
> I'm running a Windows Server 2003 R2 x86 (as DC) at home for testing,
> learning and using it as a fileserver for my media library.
>
> I bought und built a new server with desktop components for replacing
> the old server. After successfully migrating to the new server, I've
> planned to use the old server as a offline backup server (only member
> server, maybe with OpenSolaris and ZFS).
>
> Hardware of the new server is the following:
> - Biostar TA790GX A3+ Motherboard (AMD 790GX with integrated graphics)
> - AMD Athlon II X4 620 Processor
> - 2x2 GB DDR3 RAM
> - 3ware 9650SE SATA-II RAID controller
> - older Maxtor 160 GB IDE harddisk for system
> - 7 WD 2 TB green SATA drives for RAID6 set
>
> I've done the following steps:
> - installing Windows Server 2008 R2 as a member server (joining to the
> existing domain). All drivers were default (from the box), except for
> the RAID-controller. Everything was fine and worked as expected.
> - prepared the AD from my old server to 2008 (with adprep32)
> - started dcpromo on the new server (DNS option included) yesterday
> evening
>
> Last part of dcpromo wizard stayed very long (more than 20 Min.), so I
> went to bed. This morning, before going to work, I checked the progress.
> It had finnished and looked good.
> Restarted the server, but after a long time in boot phase, the recovery
> mode appeared automatically.
> Just shutdowned and powered of the server and tried it again. But the
> same result. Server is not starting to the logon window.
>
> So, it looks like the same issue as you guys are discussing here.
>
> Unfortunately, it seems theres no solution yet. I will trying some
> different setups in the next days, but don't have much hope.
>
>
> --
> r_deckard

I second Meinolf's suggestion. This thread is old with numerous posts. It is
to your benefit to start a new thread with what you posted above, as well as
offering ipconfig /all information, posting any Event log errors, and
running a "net start" to help us evaluate the issue.


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