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convert Query based DL to Normal DL [message #334197] Thu, 03 December 2009 07:09 Go to next message
Jaywant  is currently offline Jaywant
Messages: 21
Registered: September 2009
Junior Member
Hi MVP guys,


I need help from you in following issue.


I have few query based distribution groups, that I want to convert to normal
distribution group.

Member of these query based DL is more than 8000 now. I want it to split it
into less than 5000 users. I need to apply group nesting for those groups.

Win 2003 R2, SP2, Pre win 2000.



Thanks in advance




--
Jaywant Kamble.
Re: convert Query based DL to Normal DL [message #334777 is a reply to message #334197] Thu, 03 December 2009 17:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
aceman  is currently offline aceman  United States
Messages: 5816
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
"Jaywant" <Jaywant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AE9F23C2-2106-4AAE-BA81-D64F7C93264E@microsoft.com...
> Hi MVP guys,
>
> I need help from you in following issue.
>
> I have few query based distribution groups, that I want to convert to
> normal
> distribution group.
>
> Member of these query based DL is more than 8000 now. I want it to split
> it
> into less than 5000 users. I need to apply group nesting for those
> groups.
>
> Win 2003 R2, SP2, Pre win 2000.
>
> Thanks in advance
> --
> Jaywant Kamble.

That will be difficult because a query based dist group is essentially a
group that when selected as a recipient, get enumerated by the sending
Exchange server at time of being sent. Therefore, by default, the group is
really "empty" until used.

My suggestion is to either create a script that will run the same query the
query based distribution group is running, and export it to a text file
(csv, etc), then use another script to split the results into two and create
two new Distribution Group, then populate the new groups, then mail-enable
them.

Otherwise, manually create two groups, and look at the latest results of the
Query based group, and add them as needed into the two groups.

--
Ace

This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
confers no rights.

Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit among
responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your resolution.

Ace Fekay, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE & MCSA
2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
Microsoft Certified Trainer

For urgent issues, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check
http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
Re: convert Query based DL to Normal DL [message #337366 is a reply to message #334777] Mon, 07 December 2009 09:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jaywant  is currently offline Jaywant
Messages: 21
Registered: September 2009
Junior Member
Hi ACE,
Thanks for the reply.


I have one query.

If I have one Query based group say A_ALL. If somehow I managed to remove
the members of QBDL(Query based Distribution List/Group) and add/split those
users to two normal DL say ALL-I and All-II.
For Exmpl.

Say A_ALL is a QBDL with 8000 users. I removed users from A_ALL QBDL and
added/spilt them to (4000 each group) ALL-I(normal DL) with 4000 users and
A-II(other normal DL) with 4000 users. Then I added both the normal DL
ALL-I and ALL-II to A_ALL QBDL.

Now, when A_All runs query will the all removed users again be added to the
A_ALL.

Please cleare me with this.



--
Jaywant Kamble.



"Ace Fekay [MCT]" wrote:

> "Jaywant" <Jaywant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AE9F23C2-2106-4AAE-BA81-D64F7C93264E@microsoft.com...
> > Hi MVP guys,
> >
> > I need help from you in following issue.
> >
> > I have few query based distribution groups, that I want to convert to
> > normal
> > distribution group.
> >
> > Member of these query based DL is more than 8000 now. I want it to split
> > it
> > into less than 5000 users. I need to apply group nesting for those
> > groups.
> >
> > Win 2003 R2, SP2, Pre win 2000.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > --
> > Jaywant Kamble.
>
> That will be difficult because a query based dist group is essentially a
> group that when selected as a recipient, get enumerated by the sending
> Exchange server at time of being sent. Therefore, by default, the group is
> really "empty" until used.
>
> My suggestion is to either create a script that will run the same query the
> query based distribution group is running, and export it to a text file
> (csv, etc), then use another script to split the results into two and create
> two new Distribution Group, then populate the new groups, then mail-enable
> them.
>
> Otherwise, manually create two groups, and look at the latest results of the
> Query based group, and add them as needed into the two groups.
>
> --
> Ace
>
> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> confers no rights.
>
> Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit among
> responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your resolution.
>
> Ace Fekay, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE & MCSA
> 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
> Microsoft Certified Trainer
>
> For urgent issues, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check
> http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
>
>
> .
>
Re: convert Query based DL to Normal DL [message #337371 is a reply to message #337366] Mon, 07 December 2009 09:39 Go to previous message
aceman  is currently offline aceman  United States
Messages: 5816
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
"Jaywant" <Jaywant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AEEBB9FC-095C-4A6D-89F6-77A8549CA749@microsoft.com...
> Hi ACE,
> Thanks for the reply.
>
>
> I have one query.
>
> If I have one Query based group say A_ALL. If somehow I managed to remove
> the members of QBDL(Query based Distribution List/Group) and add/split
> those
> users to two normal DL say ALL-I and All-II.
> For Exmpl.
>
> Say A_ALL is a QBDL with 8000 users. I removed users from A_ALL QBDL and
> added/spilt them to (4000 each group) ALL-I(normal DL) with 4000 users and
> A-II(other normal DL) with 4000 users. Then I added both the normal DL
> ALL-I and ALL-II to A_ALL QBDL.
>
> Now, when A_All runs query will the all removed users again be added to
> the
> A_ALL.
>
> Please cleare me with this.
>

That's basically the plan I suggested.

And PLEASE keep in mind, that a Query Based Distribution Group does NOT have
any members. The Query Based Dist Group is simply a QUERY that is run
whenever anyone selects it and the results are returned at that moment and
that moment in time only. There is no 'group members.' They are not stored
as 'members' in the sense that a regular group does.

Ace
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