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AD Sites and Services [message #356027] Thu, 31 December 2009 00:36 Go to next message
NAJMUSSAQIB  is currently offline NAJMUSSAQIB
Messages: 4
Registered: November 2009
Junior Member
Hi All,

Under 'Active Directory Sites and Services' [ Default-First-Site-Name -->
Servers ], we have some irrelevant servers listed which was removed
abnormally lately. We want to delete those entries. If anyone can advise, it
would be great.

Thanks,

- saqeb
Re: AD Sites and Services [message #356423 is a reply to message #356027] Thu, 31 December 2009 15:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
meiweb  is currently offline meiweb  Germany
Messages: 2225
Registered: September 2009
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Hello NAJMUSSAQIB,

Domain controllers will be listed in AD sites and services even after demoting.
You have to delete them manual. If the DC was NOT demoted with dcpromo you
have also to cleanup the AD database according to:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555846/en-us

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Hi All,
>
> Under 'Active Directory Sites and Services' [ Default-First-Site-Name
> --> Servers ], we have some irrelevant servers listed which was
> removed abnormally lately. We want to delete those entries. If anyone
> can advise, it would be great.
>
> Thanks,
>
> - saqeb
>
Re: AD Sites and Services [message #356635 is a reply to message #356423] Fri, 01 January 2010 05:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hank Arnold  is currently offline Hank Arnold  United States
Messages: 141
Registered: August 2009
Senior Member
Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] wrote:
> Hello NAJMUSSAQIB,
>
> Domain controllers will be listed in AD sites and services even after
> demoting. You have to delete them manual. If the DC was NOT demoted with
> dcpromo you have also to cleanup the AD database according to:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555846/en-us
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Under 'Active Directory Sites and Services' [ Default-First-Site-Name
>> --> Servers ], we have some irrelevant servers listed which was
>> removed abnormally lately. We want to delete those entries. If anyone
>> can advise, it would be great.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> - saqeb
>>
>
>
I thought that I had read that 2008 R2 does a better job of deleting the
DC from AD auomatically....

--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services
http://mypcassistant.blogspot.com/
Re: AD Sites and Services [message #356640 is a reply to message #356635] Fri, 01 January 2010 05:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
meiweb  is currently offline meiweb  Germany
Messages: 2225
Registered: September 2009
Senior Member
Hello Hank,

With server 2008 it was implemented first that you can use AD UC and AD sites
and services to delete a DC and trigger automatically the AD database cleanup.
This doesn't prevent you, when running it in AD UC, to delete the DC in AD
sites and services and also to clenaup DNS if the server was DNS server.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


> Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] wrote:
>
>> Hello NAJMUSSAQIB,
>>
>> Domain controllers will be listed in AD sites and services even after
>> demoting. You have to delete them manual. If the DC was NOT demoted
>> with dcpromo you have also to cleanup the AD database according to:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555846/en-us
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Under 'Active Directory Sites and Services' [
>>> Default-First-Site-Name --> Servers ], we have some irrelevant
>>> servers listed which was removed abnormally lately. We want to
>>> delete those entries. If anyone can advise, it would be great.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> - saqeb
>>>
> I thought that I had read that 2008 R2 does a better job of deleting
> the DC from AD auomatically....
>
Re: AD Sites and Services [message #356812 is a reply to message #356640] Fri, 01 January 2010 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Andy Wendel  is currently offline Andy Wendel  Germany
Messages: 5
Registered: November 2009
Junior Member
Hello Meinolf ,

in addition - the fsmo-roles are transferred automatically if the dc for
deletion holds 'em...

Greetings

Andy


--
Andy Wendel
Senior Trainer & Consultant
Traicen GmbH
http://www.traicen.com



> Hello Hank,
>
> With server 2008 it was implemented first that you can use AD UC and
> AD sites and services to delete a DC and trigger automatically the AD
> database cleanup. This doesn't prevent you, when running it in AD UC,
> to delete the DC in AD sites and services and also to clenaup DNS if
> the server was DNS server.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>> Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] wrote:
>>
>>> Hello NAJMUSSAQIB,
>>>
>>> Domain controllers will be listed in AD sites and services even
>>> after demoting. You have to delete them manual. If the DC was NOT
>>> demoted with dcpromo you have also to cleanup the AD database
>>> according to: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555846/en-us
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Meinolf Weber
>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>>> confers no rights.
>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Under 'Active Directory Sites and Services' [
>>>> Default-First-Site-Name --> Servers ], we have some irrelevant
>>>> servers listed which was removed abnormally lately. We want to
>>>> delete those entries. If anyone can advise, it would be great.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> - saqeb
>>>>
>> I thought that I had read that 2008 R2 does a better job of deleting
>> the DC from AD auomatically....
>>
Re: AD Sites and Services [message #357243 is a reply to message #356812] Sat, 02 January 2010 05:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hank Arnold  is currently offline Hank Arnold  United States
Messages: 141
Registered: August 2009
Senior Member
It's always been like that (at least since W2K). Most of us will
recommend that FSMOs be moved manually before you DCPROMO the DC. Just
don't trust something so critical to be done "automatically", especially
if there is more than one remaining DC. I would prefer selecting which
DC gets what FSMO role...

--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services
http://mypcassistant.blogspot.com/

Andy Wendel wrote:
> Hello Meinolf ,
>
> in addition - the fsmo-roles are transferred automatically if the dc for
> deletion holds 'em...
>
> Greetings
>
> Andy
>
>
> --
> Andy Wendel
> Senior Trainer & Consultant
> Traicen GmbH
> http://www.traicen.com
>
>
>
>> Hello Hank,
>>
>> With server 2008 it was implemented first that you can use AD UC and
>> AD sites and services to delete a DC and trigger automatically the AD
>> database cleanup. This doesn't prevent you, when running it in AD UC,
>> to delete the DC in AD sites and services and also to clenaup DNS if
>> the server was DNS server.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello NAJMUSSAQIB,
>>>>
>>>> Domain controllers will be listed in AD sites and services even
>>>> after demoting. You have to delete them manual. If the DC was NOT
>>>> demoted with dcpromo you have also to cleanup the AD database
>>>> according to: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555846/en-us
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>>>> confers no rights.
>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Under 'Active Directory Sites and Services' [
>>>>> Default-First-Site-Name --> Servers ], we have some irrelevant
>>>>> servers listed which was removed abnormally lately. We want to
>>>>> delete those entries. If anyone can advise, it would be great.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> - saqeb
>>>>>
>>> I thought that I had read that 2008 R2 does a better job of deleting
>>> the DC from AD auomatically....
>>>
>
>
Re: AD Sites and Services [message #357270 is a reply to message #357243] Sat, 02 January 2010 07:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
aceman  is currently offline aceman  United States
Messages: 5816
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
"Hank Arnold" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
news:O5T13f6iKHA.2184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> It's always been like that (at least since W2K). Most of us will recommend
> that FSMOs be moved manually before you DCPROMO the DC. Just don't trust
> something so critical to be done "automatically", especially if there is
> more than one remaining DC. I would prefer selecting which DC gets what
> FSMO role...
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Hank Arnold
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Server - Directory Services
> http://mypcassistant.blogspot.com/


I would agree to manually transfer teh roles prior to a demotion, especially
if there are more than 3 DCs in the domain. If there are only two DCs, the
demotion process should normally transfer roles to the other DC, however,
it's best to manually transfer them so if there are any problems in the
process, it can be identified and addressed prior to a demotion.

Cheers, and Happy New Year!


--
Ace

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Ace Fekay, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE & MCSA
2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
Microsoft Certified Trainer

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Re: AD Sites and Services [message #357391 is a reply to message #357270] Sat, 02 January 2010 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Andy Wendel  is currently offline Andy Wendel  Germany
Messages: 5
Registered: November 2009
Junior Member
Hello Ace,

my posting was only intended to show a new gui, when deleting a dc concerning
the fsmo-roles...
Of course - there will normally ever the need to do this manually...

I agree 100% with all said by hank and ace...

Andy

--
Andy Wendel
Senior Trainer & Consultant
Traicen GmbH
http://www.traicen.com



> "Hank Arnold" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:O5T13f6iKHA.2184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>> It's always been like that (at least since W2K). Most of us will
>> recommend that FSMOs be moved manually before you DCPROMO the DC.
>> Just don't trust something so critical to be done "automatically",
>> especially if there is more than one remaining DC. I would prefer
>> selecting which DC gets what FSMO role...
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hank Arnold
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Server - Directory Services
>> http://mypcassistant.blogspot.com/
> I would agree to manually transfer teh roles prior to a demotion,
> especially if there are more than 3 DCs in the domain. If there are
> only two DCs, the demotion process should normally transfer roles to
> the other DC, however, it's best to manually transfer them so if there
> are any problems in the process, it can be identified and addressed
> prior to a demotion.
>
> Cheers, and Happy New Year!
>
> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> confers no rights.
>
> Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit
> among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your
> resolution.
>
> Ace Fekay, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE &
> MCSA
> 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
> Microsoft Certified Trainer
> For urgent issues, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check
> http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
Re: AD Sites and Services [message #357411 is a reply to message #357391] Sat, 02 January 2010 12:08 Go to previous message
aceman  is currently offline aceman  United States
Messages: 5816
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
"Andy Wendel" <andy@lifesavers.de> wrote in message
news:26b64af455678cc59fa6d0eac01@news.microsoft.com...

Hello Andy,

I understand. I was just pointing out my thoughts on it, basically a best
practice I like to follow if at all possible, but either way will work.

Cheers!

Ace

> Hello Ace,
>
> my posting was only intended to show a new gui, when deleting a dc
> concerning the fsmo-roles...
> Of course - there will normally ever the need to do this manually...
>
> I agree 100% with all said by hank and ace...
>
> Andy
>
> --
> Andy Wendel
> Senior Trainer & Consultant
> Traicen GmbH
> http://www.traicen.com
>
>
>
>> "Hank Arnold" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:O5T13f6iKHA.2184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> It's always been like that (at least since W2K). Most of us will
>>> recommend that FSMOs be moved manually before you DCPROMO the DC.
>>> Just don't trust something so critical to be done "automatically",
>>> especially if there is more than one remaining DC. I would prefer
>>> selecting which DC gets what FSMO role...
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Hank Arnold
>>> Microsoft MVP
>>> Windows Server - Directory Services
>>> http://mypcassistant.blogspot.com/
>> I would agree to manually transfer teh roles prior to a demotion,
>> especially if there are more than 3 DCs in the domain. If there are
>> only two DCs, the demotion process should normally transfer roles to
>> the other DC, however, it's best to manually transfer them so if there
>> are any problems in the process, it can be identified and addressed
>> prior to a demotion.
>>
>> Cheers, and Happy New Year!
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
>> confers no rights.
>>
>> Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit
>> among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your
>> resolution.
>>
>> Ace Fekay, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE &
>> MCSA
>> 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
>> Microsoft Certified Trainer
>> For urgent issues, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check
>> http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>>
>
>
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