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decomission an DC server [message #367322] Wed, 13 January 2010 13:55 Go to next message
biren  is currently offline biren
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Registered: July 2009
Member
Hi,

I am trying to decomission an old server which has the following roles:

PDC
Infrastructure master
RID master

1) Do I need to configure the new server with the Windows Time service
(external)?

2) How do I move the GC role to the new server. Is it a matter of unchecking
on old server, and checking on new server?

Thanks
Re: decomission an DC server [message #367342 is a reply to message #367322] Wed, 13 January 2010 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Meinolf Weber MVP-DS  is currently offline Meinolf Weber MVP-DS  Germany
Messages: 129
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hello biren,

1. Yes the new PDCEmulator must be configured to an external time server:
w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:PEERS /syncfromflags:manual /reliable:yes /update

With "PEERS" you can set the time source, either DNS name (time.windows.com)
or an ip address from a reliable time source.

Here you can find some of them:
http://www.pool.ntp.org/

If the old one still stays in the domain run on the previous PDCEmulator:
w32tm /config /syncfromflags:domhier /reliable:no /update

After that run:
net stop w32time
net start w32time

2. Yes, all 5 FSMO roles MUST exist in a domain, follow the follwoing article
to move them:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324801

Also in a single forest domain like DOMAIN.COM all DCs should be Global catalog
server:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=313994

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Hi,
>
> I am trying to decomission an old server which has the following
> roles:
>
> PDC
> Infrastructure master
> RID master
> 1) Do I need to configure the new server with the Windows Time service
> (external)?
>
> 2) How do I move the GC role to the new server. Is it a matter of
> unchecking on old server, and checking on new server?
>
> Thanks
>
Re: decomission an DC server [message #367385 is a reply to message #367322] Wed, 13 January 2010 14:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jorge Silva  is currently offline Jorge Silva
Messages: 398
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi
> I am trying to decomission an old server which has the following roles:
> PDC
> Infrastructure master
> RID master
Make sure that you transfer the roles to another DC before decommissioning
that server. Do that off working hours.

> 1) Do I need to configure the new server with the Windows Time service
> (external)?
Yes.
From cmd type:
w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:PEERS /syncfromflags:manual /reliable:yes
/update
With "PEERS" you can set the time source, either DNS name (time.windows.com)
or an ip address from a reliable time source.
http://www.pool.ntp.org/ - Should give you a list of available public time
servers.
On all Domain members, to make sure that all domain members are using it,
run:
w32tm /config /syncfromflags:domhier /update
After that run:
net stop w32time
net start w32time
For more information:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307897
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816042

> 2) How do I move the GC role to the new server. Is it a matter of
> unchecking
> on old server, and checking on new server?
Instead of doing that, make sure that both have the GC check box enabled,
force replication between both and give time to replicate.

There're additional tasks that you may need to perform, for instance, make
sure that a DNS is available to answer client requests, make sure that the
network clients of that domain have their new DNS server configured under
their TCP/IP settings, before demoting that DC, disconnect it from network
for a couple of days and check if there're complaints, if not, you should be
ready to demote that DC, if yes, you should resolve them first.

--

I hope that the information above helps you.
Have a Nice day.

Jorge Silva
MVP Directory Services

Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.




"biren" <biren@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:44ECC052-5678-4200-85B5-60D0BAFB7B81@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to decomission an old server which has the following roles:
>
> PDC
> Infrastructure master
> RID master
>
> 1) Do I need to configure the new server with the Windows Time service
> (external)?
>
> 2) How do I move the GC role to the new server. Is it a matter of
> unchecking
> on old server, and checking on new server?
>
> Thanks
Re: decomission an DC server [message #368111 is a reply to message #367385] Thu, 14 January 2010 09:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
biren  is currently offline biren
Messages: 45
Registered: July 2009
Member
Hi,

I had setup the new server with DNS and also made it a GC a few days ago.

So question is:

1) do I need to force replication

2) how do I remove GC role from old server - is it a matter of just
unchecking ?


Thanks for all your feedback so far.



> Instead of doing that, make sure that both have the GC check box enabled,
> force replication between both and give time to replicate.

> There're additional tasks that you may need to perform, for instance, make
> sure that a DNS is available to answer client requests, make sure that the
> network clients of that domain have their new DNS server configured under
> their TCP/IP settings, before demoting that DC, disconnect it from network
> for a couple of days and check if there're complaints, if not, you should be
> ready to demote that DC, if yes, you should resolve them first.



"Jorge Silva" wrote:

> Hi
> > I am trying to decomission an old server which has the following roles:
> > PDC
> > Infrastructure master
> > RID master
> Make sure that you transfer the roles to another DC before decommissioning
> that server. Do that off working hours.
>
> > 1) Do I need to configure the new server with the Windows Time service
> > (external)?
> Yes.
> From cmd type:
> w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:PEERS /syncfromflags:manual /reliable:yes
> /update
> With "PEERS" you can set the time source, either DNS name (time.windows.com)
> or an ip address from a reliable time source.
> http://www.pool.ntp.org/ - Should give you a list of available public time
> servers.
> On all Domain members, to make sure that all domain members are using it,
> run:
> w32tm /config /syncfromflags:domhier /update
> After that run:
> net stop w32time
> net start w32time
> For more information:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307897
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816042
>
> > 2) How do I move the GC role to the new server. Is it a matter of
> > unchecking
> > on old server, and checking on new server?
> Instead of doing that, make sure that both have the GC check box enabled,
> force replication between both and give time to replicate.
>
> There're additional tasks that you may need to perform, for instance, make
> sure that a DNS is available to answer client requests, make sure that the
> network clients of that domain have their new DNS server configured under
> their TCP/IP settings, before demoting that DC, disconnect it from network
> for a couple of days and check if there're complaints, if not, you should be
> ready to demote that DC, if yes, you should resolve them first.
>
> --
>
> I hope that the information above helps you.
> Have a Nice day.
>
> Jorge Silva
> MVP Directory Services
>
> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
>
>
>
> "biren" <biren@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:44ECC052-5678-4200-85B5-60D0BAFB7B81@microsoft.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am trying to decomission an old server which has the following roles:
> >
> > PDC
> > Infrastructure master
> > RID master
> >
> > 1) Do I need to configure the new server with the Windows Time service
> > (external)?
> >
> > 2) How do I move the GC role to the new server. Is it a matter of
> > unchecking
> > on old server, and checking on new server?
> >
> > Thanks
>
Re: decomission an DC server [message #368189 is a reply to message #368111] Thu, 14 January 2010 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
meiweb  is currently offline meiweb  Germany
Messages: 2225
Registered: September 2009
Senior Member
Hello biren,

Replication occurs automatically, check with repadmin /showrepl or start
replmon in the run line as GUI version.

Unchecking GC in AD sites and services is the way to do it.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


> Hi,
>
> I had setup the new server with DNS and also made it a GC a few days
> ago.
>
> So question is:
>
> 1) do I need to force replication
>
> 2) how do I remove GC role from old server - is it a matter of just
> unchecking ?
>
> Thanks for all your feedback so far.
>
>> Instead of doing that, make sure that both have the GC check box
>> enabled, force replication between both and give time to replicate.
>>
>> There're additional tasks that you may need to perform, for instance,
>> make sure that a DNS is available to answer client requests, make
>> sure that the network clients of that domain have their new DNS
>> server configured under their TCP/IP settings, before demoting that
>> DC, disconnect it from network for a couple of days and check if
>> there're complaints, if not, you should be ready to demote that DC,
>> if yes, you should resolve them first.
>>
> "Jorge Silva" wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>>> I am trying to decomission an old server which has the following
>>> roles:
>>> PDC
>>> Infrastructure master
>>> RID master
>> Make sure that you transfer the roles to another DC before
>> decommissioning that server. Do that off working hours.
>>
>>> 1) Do I need to configure the new server with the Windows Time
>>> service (external)?
>>>
>> Yes.
>> From cmd type:
>> w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:PEERS /syncfromflags:manual
>> /reliable:yes
>> /update
>> With "PEERS" you can set the time source, either DNS name
>> (time.windows.com)
>> or an ip address from a reliable time source.
>> http://www.pool.ntp.org/ - Should give you a list of available public
>> time
>> servers.
>> On all Domain members, to make sure that all domain members are using
>> it,
>> run:
>> w32tm /config /syncfromflags:domhier /update
>> After that run:
>> net stop w32time
>> net start w32time
>> For more information:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307897
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816042
>>> 2) How do I move the GC role to the new server. Is it a matter of
>>> unchecking
>>> on old server, and checking on new server?
>> Instead of doing that, make sure that both have the GC check box
>> enabled, force replication between both and give time to replicate.
>>
>> There're additional tasks that you may need to perform, for instance,
>> make sure that a DNS is available to answer client requests, make
>> sure that the network clients of that domain have their new DNS
>> server configured under their TCP/IP settings, before demoting that
>> DC, disconnect it from network for a couple of days and check if
>> there're complaints, if not, you should be ready to demote that DC,
>> if yes, you should resolve them first.
>>
>> --
>>
>> I hope that the information above helps you.
>> Have a Nice day.
>> Jorge Silva
>> MVP Directory Services
>> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>>
>> "biren" <biren@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:44ECC052-5678-4200-85B5-60D0BAFB7B81@microsoft.com...
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am trying to decomission an old server which has the following
>>> roles:
>>>
>>> PDC
>>> Infrastructure master
>>> RID master
>>> 1) Do I need to configure the new server with the Windows Time
>>> service (external)?
>>>
>>> 2) How do I move the GC role to the new server. Is it a matter of
>>> unchecking
>>> on old server, and checking on new server?
>>> Thanks
>>>
Re: decomission an DC server [message #369045 is a reply to message #368189] Fri, 15 January 2010 09:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
biren  is currently offline biren
Messages: 45
Registered: July 2009
Member
Thanks .. you guys are great !

"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:

> Hello biren,
>
> Replication occurs automatically, check with repadmin /showrepl or start
> replmon in the run line as GUI version.
>
> Unchecking GC in AD sites and services is the way to do it.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I had setup the new server with DNS and also made it a GC a few days
> > ago.
> >
> > So question is:
> >
> > 1) do I need to force replication
> >
> > 2) how do I remove GC role from old server - is it a matter of just
> > unchecking ?
> >
> > Thanks for all your feedback so far.
> >
> >> Instead of doing that, make sure that both have the GC check box
> >> enabled, force replication between both and give time to replicate.
> >>
> >> There're additional tasks that you may need to perform, for instance,
> >> make sure that a DNS is available to answer client requests, make
> >> sure that the network clients of that domain have their new DNS
> >> server configured under their TCP/IP settings, before demoting that
> >> DC, disconnect it from network for a couple of days and check if
> >> there're complaints, if not, you should be ready to demote that DC,
> >> if yes, you should resolve them first.
> >>
> > "Jorge Silva" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >>> I am trying to decomission an old server which has the following
> >>> roles:
> >>> PDC
> >>> Infrastructure master
> >>> RID master
> >> Make sure that you transfer the roles to another DC before
> >> decommissioning that server. Do that off working hours.
> >>
> >>> 1) Do I need to configure the new server with the Windows Time
> >>> service (external)?
> >>>
> >> Yes.
> >> From cmd type:
> >> w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:PEERS /syncfromflags:manual
> >> /reliable:yes
> >> /update
> >> With "PEERS" you can set the time source, either DNS name
> >> (time.windows.com)
> >> or an ip address from a reliable time source.
> >> http://www.pool.ntp.org/ - Should give you a list of available public
> >> time
> >> servers.
> >> On all Domain members, to make sure that all domain members are using
> >> it,
> >> run:
> >> w32tm /config /syncfromflags:domhier /update
> >> After that run:
> >> net stop w32time
> >> net start w32time
> >> For more information:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307897
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816042
> >>> 2) How do I move the GC role to the new server. Is it a matter of
> >>> unchecking
> >>> on old server, and checking on new server?
> >> Instead of doing that, make sure that both have the GC check box
> >> enabled, force replication between both and give time to replicate.
> >>
> >> There're additional tasks that you may need to perform, for instance,
> >> make sure that a DNS is available to answer client requests, make
> >> sure that the network clients of that domain have their new DNS
> >> server configured under their TCP/IP settings, before demoting that
> >> DC, disconnect it from network for a couple of days and check if
> >> there're complaints, if not, you should be ready to demote that DC,
> >> if yes, you should resolve them first.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> I hope that the information above helps you.
> >> Have a Nice day.
> >> Jorge Silva
> >> MVP Directory Services
> >> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> rights.
> >>
> >> "biren" <biren@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:44ECC052-5678-4200-85B5-60D0BAFB7B81@microsoft.com...
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I am trying to decomission an old server which has the following
> >>> roles:
> >>>
> >>> PDC
> >>> Infrastructure master
> >>> RID master
> >>> 1) Do I need to configure the new server with the Windows Time
> >>> service (external)?
> >>>
> >>> 2) How do I move the GC role to the new server. Is it a matter of
> >>> unchecking
> >>> on old server, and checking on new server?
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
>
>
> .
>
Re: decomission an DC server [message #369693 is a reply to message #367342] Sat, 16 January 2010 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
biren  is currently offline biren
Messages: 45
Registered: July 2009
Member
Hi,

I used


w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:ntp1.cmc.ec.gc.ca /syncfromflags:manual
/reliable:yes /update


Is adding just one time source from the internet sufficient?

Thanks (again)

"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:

> Hello biren,
>
> 1. Yes the new PDCEmulator must be configured to an external time server:
> w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:PEERS /syncfromflags:manual /reliable:yes /update
>
> With "PEERS" you can set the time source, either DNS name (time.windows.com)
> or an ip address from a reliable time source.
>
> Here you can find some of them:
> http://www.pool.ntp.org/
>
> If the old one still stays in the domain run on the previous PDCEmulator:
> w32tm /config /syncfromflags:domhier /reliable:no /update
>
> After that run:
> net stop w32time
> net start w32time
>
> 2. Yes, all 5 FSMO roles MUST exist in a domain, follow the follwoing article
> to move them:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324801
>
> Also in a single forest domain like DOMAIN.COM all DCs should be Global catalog
> server:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=313994
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am trying to decomission an old server which has the following
> > roles:
> >
> > PDC
> > Infrastructure master
> > RID master
> > 1) Do I need to configure the new server with the Windows Time service
> > (external)?
> >
> > 2) How do I move the GC role to the new server. Is it a matter of
> > unchecking on old server, and checking on new server?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>
>
> .
>
Re: decomission an DC server [message #369694 is a reply to message #369693] Sat, 16 January 2010 08:58 Go to previous message
meiweb  is currently offline meiweb  Germany
Messages: 2225
Registered: September 2009
Senior Member
Hello biren,

Depends on you, you can also use more then one.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


> Hi,
>
> I used
>
> w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:ntp1.cmc.ec.gc.ca /syncfromflags:manual
> /reliable:yes /update
>
> Is adding just one time source from the internet sufficient?
>
> Thanks (again)
>
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
>
>> Hello biren,
>>
>> 1. Yes the new PDCEmulator must be configured to an external time
>> server: w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:PEERS /syncfromflags:manual
>> /reliable:yes /update
>>
>> With "PEERS" you can set the time source, either DNS name
>> (time.windows.com) or an ip address from a reliable time source.
>>
>> Here you can find some of them:
>> http://www.pool.ntp.org/
>> If the old one still stays in the domain run on the previous
>> PDCEmulator: w32tm /config /syncfromflags:domhier /reliable:no
>> /update
>>
>> After that run:
>> net stop w32time
>> net start w32time
>> 2. Yes, all 5 FSMO roles MUST exist in a domain, follow the follwoing
>> article
>> to move them:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324801
>> Also in a single forest domain like DOMAIN.COM all DCs should be
>> Global catalog
>> server:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=313994
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am trying to decomission an old server which has the following
>>> roles:
>>>
>>> PDC
>>> Infrastructure master
>>> RID master
>>> 1) Do I need to configure the new server with the Windows Time
>>> service
>>> (external)?
>>> 2) How do I move the GC role to the new server. Is it a matter of
>>> unchecking on old server, and checking on new server?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>> .
>>
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