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DC Site move [message #379361] Thu, 28 January 2010 12:27 Go to next message
Chris D  is currently offline Chris D  United Kingdom
Messages: 8
Registered: January 2010
Junior Member
We are moving one of our physical offices to a new location.

We have 7 Physical sites, 2DC's per site 2003 AD

Unfortunately it has to be in 2 stages so i need to move the admin users and
one DC including router/fw etc. This leaves one DC on site for the
remaining user authentication without any access to our AD intersite
topology..

The moves will be 7 days apart. Are there any issues with having one DC
effectively offline for a week while users still connect to it? We often
have our remote sites disconnected for a day or so due to bad comms and had
an issue with the garbage collection period which stopped all replication at
one point.

TIA

Chris
Re: DC Site move [message #379486 is a reply to message #379361] Thu, 28 January 2010 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
meiweb  is currently offline meiweb  Germany
Messages: 2225
Registered: September 2009
Senior Member
Hello Chris,

No problem, as long as you are not come over the tombstone lifetime, depending
on the OS version and SP level between 60 and 180 days. If you also change
the ip range for the new site do not forget to and the new subnet/site in
AD sites and services before moving the DC. Of course check that the remaining
users have a DNS server available and if you use universal groups the DChave
to be Globaql catalog server.

BEFORE the move use dcdiag /v, netdiag and repadmin /showrepl to check for
errors and solve them if exist.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


> We are moving one of our physical offices to a new location.
>
> We have 7 Physical sites, 2DC's per site 2003 AD
>
> Unfortunately it has to be in 2 stages so i need to move the admin
> users and one DC including router/fw etc. This leaves one DC on site
> for the remaining user authentication without any access to our AD
> intersite topology..
>
> The moves will be 7 days apart. Are there any issues with having one
> DC effectively offline for a week while users still connect to it? We
> often have our remote sites disconnected for a day or so due to bad
> comms and had an issue with the garbage collection period which
> stopped all replication at one point.
>
> TIA
>
> Chris
>
Re: DC Site move [message #379511 is a reply to message #379486] Thu, 28 January 2010 15:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris D  is currently offline Chris D  United Kingdom
Messages: 8
Registered: January 2010
Junior Member
Thanks for the reply.

The site ip range is staying as is so it's just the tombstone i was worried
about..

Thanks again Meinolf

"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de> wrote in message
news:6cb2911dcee48cc6e8321bf0fea@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Hello Chris,
>
> No problem, as long as you are not come over the tombstone lifetime,
> depending on the OS version and SP level between 60 and 180 days. If you
> also change the ip range for the new site do not forget to and the new
> subnet/site in AD sites and services before moving the DC. Of course check
> that the remaining users have a DNS server available and if you use
> universal groups the DChave to be Globaql catalog server.
>
> BEFORE the move use dcdiag /v, netdiag and repadmin /showrepl to check for
> errors and solve them if exist.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> We are moving one of our physical offices to a new location.
>>
>> We have 7 Physical sites, 2DC's per site 2003 AD
>>
>> Unfortunately it has to be in 2 stages so i need to move the admin
>> users and one DC including router/fw etc. This leaves one DC on site
>> for the remaining user authentication without any access to our AD
>> intersite topology..
>>
>> The moves will be 7 days apart. Are there any issues with having one
>> DC effectively offline for a week while users still connect to it? We
>> often have our remote sites disconnected for a day or so due to bad
>> comms and had an issue with the garbage collection period which
>> stopped all replication at one point.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Chris
>>
>
>
Re: DC Site move [message #380796 is a reply to message #379511] Sat, 30 January 2010 16:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jorge Silva  is currently offline Jorge Silva
Messages: 398
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi
Careful, you MAY NOT have the Default TombStone. You need to check it's
"ACTUAL" value before proceed. Yep, tombstoneLifetime value CAN be changed
and you may not be aware of it's current value, so, check it at:
CN=tombstoneLifetime,CN=Directory Service,CN=Windows
NT,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=yourdomain,DC=tld

--

I hope that the information above helps you.
Have a Nice day.

Jorge Silva
MVP Directory Services

Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.




"Chris D" <cdove@hot.ma.il.com> wrote in message
news:#WRJkiGoKHA.3164@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> The site ip range is staying as is so it's just the tombstone i was
> worried about..
>
> Thanks again Meinolf
>
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:6cb2911dcee48cc6e8321bf0fea@msnews.microsoft.com...
>> Hello Chris,
>>
>> No problem, as long as you are not come over the tombstone lifetime,
>> depending on the OS version and SP level between 60 and 180 days. If you
>> also change the ip range for the new site do not forget to and the new
>> subnet/site in AD sites and services before moving the DC. Of course
>> check that the remaining users have a DNS server available and if you use
>> universal groups the DChave to be Globaql catalog server.
>>
>> BEFORE the move use dcdiag /v, netdiag and repadmin /showrepl to check
>> for errors and solve them if exist.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>
>>> We are moving one of our physical offices to a new location.
>>>
>>> We have 7 Physical sites, 2DC's per site 2003 AD
>>>
>>> Unfortunately it has to be in 2 stages so i need to move the admin
>>> users and one DC including router/fw etc. This leaves one DC on site
>>> for the remaining user authentication without any access to our AD
>>> intersite topology..
>>>
>>> The moves will be 7 days apart. Are there any issues with having one
>>> DC effectively offline for a week while users still connect to it? We
>>> often have our remote sites disconnected for a day or so due to bad
>>> comms and had an issue with the garbage collection period which
>>> stopped all replication at one point.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: DC Site move [message #381954 is a reply to message #380796] Mon, 01 February 2010 14:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris D  is currently offline Chris D  United Kingdom
Messages: 8
Registered: January 2010
Junior Member
Thanks Jorge,

Can i force it to run before i move DC1?

Chris

"Jorge Silva" <jorgesilva_pt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:E0A039A1-3CE9-4854-8CB5-5761BF4B7C77@microsoft.com...
> Hi
> Careful, you MAY NOT have the Default TombStone. You need to check it's
> "ACTUAL" value before proceed. Yep, tombstoneLifetime value CAN be changed
> and you may not be aware of it's current value, so, check it at:
> CN=tombstoneLifetime,CN=Directory Service,CN=Windows
> NT,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=yourdomain,DC=tld
>
> --
>
> I hope that the information above helps you.
> Have a Nice day.
>
> Jorge Silva
> MVP Directory Services
>
> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
>
>
>
>
> "Chris D" <cdove@hot.ma.il.com> wrote in message
> news:#WRJkiGoKHA.3164@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks for the reply.
>>
>> The site ip range is staying as is so it's just the tombstone i was
>> worried about..
>>
>> Thanks again Meinolf
>>
>> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de> wrote in message
>> news:6cb2911dcee48cc6e8321bf0fea@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>> Hello Chris,
>>>
>>> No problem, as long as you are not come over the tombstone lifetime,
>>> depending on the OS version and SP level between 60 and 180 days. If you
>>> also change the ip range for the new site do not forget to and the new
>>> subnet/site in AD sites and services before moving the DC. Of course
>>> check that the remaining users have a DNS server available and if you
>>> use universal groups the DChave to be Globaql catalog server.
>>>
>>> BEFORE the move use dcdiag /v, netdiag and repadmin /showrepl to check
>>> for errors and solve them if exist.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Meinolf Weber
>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>>> confers no rights.
>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>
>>>> We are moving one of our physical offices to a new location.
>>>>
>>>> We have 7 Physical sites, 2DC's per site 2003 AD
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately it has to be in 2 stages so i need to move the admin
>>>> users and one DC including router/fw etc. This leaves one DC on site
>>>> for the remaining user authentication without any access to our AD
>>>> intersite topology..
>>>>
>>>> The moves will be 7 days apart. Are there any issues with having one
>>>> DC effectively offline for a week while users still connect to it? We
>>>> often have our remote sites disconnected for a day or so due to bad
>>>> comms and had an issue with the garbage collection period which
>>>> stopped all replication at one point.
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
Re: DC Site move [message #382244 is a reply to message #381954] Mon, 01 February 2010 23:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
meiweb  is currently offline meiweb  Germany
Messages: 2225
Registered: September 2009
Senior Member
Hello Chris,

What do you like to force? Jorge shows you the way where you can find the
tombstone lifetime setting with ADSIEDIT to check the value, so there is
nothing to "run".

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


> Thanks Jorge,
>
> Can i force it to run before i move DC1?
>
> Chris
>
> "Jorge Silva" <jorgesilva_pt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:E0A039A1-3CE9-4854-8CB5-5761BF4B7C77@microsoft.com...
>
>> Hi
>> Careful, you MAY NOT have the Default TombStone. You need to check
>> it's
>> "ACTUAL" value before proceed. Yep, tombstoneLifetime value CAN be
>> changed
>> and you may not be aware of it's current value, so, check it at:
>> CN=tombstoneLifetime,CN=Directory Service,CN=Windows
>> NT,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=yourdomain,DC=tld
>> --
>>
>> I hope that the information above helps you.
>> Have a Nice day.
>> Jorge Silva
>> MVP Directory Services
>> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>>
>> "Chris D" <cdove@hot.ma.il.com> wrote in message
>> news:#WRJkiGoKHA.3164@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>
>>> The site ip range is staying as is so it's just the tombstone i was
>>> worried about..
>>>
>>> Thanks again Meinolf
>>>
>>> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de> wrote in message
>>> news:6cb2911dcee48cc6e8321bf0fea@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>>
>>>> Hello Chris,
>>>>
>>>> No problem, as long as you are not come over the tombstone
>>>> lifetime, depending on the OS version and SP level between 60 and
>>>> 180 days. If you also change the ip range for the new site do not
>>>> forget to and the new subnet/site in AD sites and services before
>>>> moving the DC. Of course check that the remaining users have a DNS
>>>> server available and if you use universal groups the DChave to be
>>>> Globaql catalog server.
>>>>
>>>> BEFORE the move use dcdiag /v, netdiag and repadmin /showrepl to
>>>> check for errors and solve them if exist.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>> and
>>>> confers no rights.
>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>> We are moving one of our physical offices to a new location.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have 7 Physical sites, 2DC's per site 2003 AD
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately it has to be in 2 stages so i need to move the admin
>>>>> users and one DC including router/fw etc. This leaves one DC on
>>>>> site for the remaining user authentication without any access to
>>>>> our AD intersite topology..
>>>>>
>>>>> The moves will be 7 days apart. Are there any issues with having
>>>>> one DC effectively offline for a week while users still connect to
>>>>> it? We often have our remote sites disconnected for a day or so
>>>>> due to bad comms and had an issue with the garbage collection
>>>>> period which stopped all replication at one point.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
Re: DC Site move [message #382835 is a reply to message #382244] Tue, 02 February 2010 14:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris D  is currently offline Chris D  United Kingdom
Messages: 8
Registered: January 2010
Junior Member
Hi Gents,

My thinking was that if i were able to run the garbage collection then i
would have a longer time i could have the DC's effectively offline before it
ran again?

"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de> wrote in message
news:6cb2911dd11c8cc71f0f569c52c@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Hello Chris,
>
> What do you like to force? Jorge shows you the way where you can find the
> tombstone lifetime setting with ADSIEDIT to check the value, so there is
> nothing to "run".
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> Thanks Jorge,
>>
>> Can i force it to run before i move DC1?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> "Jorge Silva" <jorgesilva_pt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:E0A039A1-3CE9-4854-8CB5-5761BF4B7C77@microsoft.com...
>>
>>> Hi
>>> Careful, you MAY NOT have the Default TombStone. You need to check
>>> it's
>>> "ACTUAL" value before proceed. Yep, tombstoneLifetime value CAN be
>>> changed
>>> and you may not be aware of it's current value, so, check it at:
>>> CN=tombstoneLifetime,CN=Directory Service,CN=Windows
>>> NT,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=yourdomain,DC=tld
>>> --
>>>
>>> I hope that the information above helps you.
>>> Have a Nice day.
>>> Jorge Silva
>>> MVP Directory Services
>>> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>>> rights.
>>>
>>> "Chris D" <cdove@hot.ma.il.com> wrote in message
>>> news:#WRJkiGoKHA.3164@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>>
>>>> The site ip range is staying as is so it's just the tombstone i was
>>>> worried about..
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again Meinolf
>>>>
>>>> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de> wrote in message
>>>> news:6cb2911dcee48cc6e8321bf0fea@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Chris,
>>>>>
>>>>> No problem, as long as you are not come over the tombstone
>>>>> lifetime, depending on the OS version and SP level between 60 and
>>>>> 180 days. If you also change the ip range for the new site do not
>>>>> forget to and the new subnet/site in AD sites and services before
>>>>> moving the DC. Of course check that the remaining users have a DNS
>>>>> server available and if you use universal groups the DChave to be
>>>>> Globaql catalog server.
>>>>>
>>>>> BEFORE the move use dcdiag /v, netdiag and repadmin /showrepl to
>>>>> check for errors and solve them if exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>>> and
>>>>> confers no rights.
>>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>>> We are moving one of our physical offices to a new location.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have 7 Physical sites, 2DC's per site 2003 AD
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately it has to be in 2 stages so i need to move the admin
>>>>>> users and one DC including router/fw etc. This leaves one DC on
>>>>>> site for the remaining user authentication without any access to
>>>>>> our AD intersite topology..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The moves will be 7 days apart. Are there any issues with having
>>>>>> one DC effectively offline for a week while users still connect to
>>>>>> it? We often have our remote sites disconnected for a day or so
>>>>>> due to bad comms and had an issue with the garbage collection
>>>>>> period which stopped all replication at one point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>
>
Re: DC Site move [message #382864 is a reply to message #382835] Tue, 02 February 2010 15:01 Go to previous message
Jorge Silva  is currently offline Jorge Silva  Portugal
Messages: 398
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Careful, If you increase the Tombstonelifetime, you may end up with a very
large Active Directory DB (of course this will depend of your Active
Directory activity). Remember, deleted objects are only deleted by the
Garbage Collector after their Tombstonelifetime exceeds.

--

I hope that the information above helps you.
Have a Nice day.

Jorge Silva
MVP Directory Services

Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.




"Chris D" <cdove@hot.ma.il.com> wrote in message
news:OsHuo6EpKHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi Gents,
>
> My thinking was that if i were able to run the garbage collection then i
> would have a longer time i could have the DC's effectively offline before
> it ran again?
>
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:6cb2911dd11c8cc71f0f569c52c@msnews.microsoft.com...
>> Hello Chris,
>>
>> What do you like to force? Jorge shows you the way where you can find the
>> tombstone lifetime setting with ADSIEDIT to check the value, so there is
>> nothing to "run".
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>
>>> Thanks Jorge,
>>>
>>> Can i force it to run before i move DC1?
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> "Jorge Silva" <jorgesilva_pt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:E0A039A1-3CE9-4854-8CB5-5761BF4B7C77@microsoft.com...
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>> Careful, you MAY NOT have the Default TombStone. You need to check
>>>> it's
>>>> "ACTUAL" value before proceed. Yep, tombstoneLifetime value CAN be
>>>> changed
>>>> and you may not be aware of it's current value, so, check it at:
>>>> CN=tombstoneLifetime,CN=Directory Service,CN=Windows
>>>> NT,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=yourdomain,DC=tld
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> I hope that the information above helps you.
>>>> Have a Nice day.
>>>> Jorge Silva
>>>> MVP Directory Services
>>>> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
>>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>>>> rights.
>>>>
>>>> "Chris D" <cdove@hot.ma.il.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:#WRJkiGoKHA.3164@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>>>
>>>>> The site ip range is staying as is so it's just the tombstone i was
>>>>> worried about..
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again Meinolf
>>>>>
>>>>> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de> wrote in message
>>>>> news:6cb2911dcee48cc6e8321bf0fea@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Chris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No problem, as long as you are not come over the tombstone
>>>>>> lifetime, depending on the OS version and SP level between 60 and
>>>>>> 180 days. If you also change the ip range for the new site do not
>>>>>> forget to and the new subnet/site in AD sites and services before
>>>>>> moving the DC. Of course check that the remaining users have a DNS
>>>>>> server available and if you use universal groups the DChave to be
>>>>>> Globaql catalog server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BEFORE the move use dcdiag /v, netdiag and repadmin /showrepl to
>>>>>> check for errors and solve them if exist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> confers no rights.
>>>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>>>> We are moving one of our physical offices to a new location.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have 7 Physical sites, 2DC's per site 2003 AD
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately it has to be in 2 stages so i need to move the admin
>>>>>>> users and one DC including router/fw etc. This leaves one DC on
>>>>>>> site for the remaining user authentication without any access to
>>>>>>> our AD intersite topology..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The moves will be 7 days apart. Are there any issues with having
>>>>>>> one DC effectively offline for a week while users still connect to
>>>>>>> it? We often have our remote sites disconnected for a day or so
>>>>>>> due to bad comms and had an issue with the garbage collection
>>>>>>> period which stopped all replication at one point.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: DC Site move [message #382865 is a reply to message #382835] Tue, 02 February 2010 14:59 Go to previous message
meiweb  is currently offline meiweb  Germany
Messages: 2225
Registered: September 2009
Senior Member
Hello Chris,

If the tombstone lifetime value is set to "not configured" it will use the
default settings between 60 and 180 days depending on the OS version SP level
used. So if you think to set it to another value, it will be fine, just document
it for you or your successor in the future.

The garbage collection process, which by default runs every 12 hours, will
delete objects in AD that are already marked as over the tombstone lifetime,
so object deleted in AD(marked for deleting), tombstone lifetime runs(default
between 60-180 days), then garbage collection removes it complete:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198793

If you like to run a garbage collection process earlier, then you have to
modify the tombstone lifetime to a shorter values then 60 days. Personnel
i wouldn't change it, you can run into trouble when you use system state
backups:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216993

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


> Hi Gents,
>
> My thinking was that if i were able to run the garbage collection then
> i would have a longer time i could have the DC's effectively offline
> before it ran again?
>
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:6cb2911dd11c8cc71f0f569c52c@msnews.microsoft.com...
>
>> Hello Chris,
>>
>> What do you like to force? Jorge shows you the way where you can find
>> the tombstone lifetime setting with ADSIEDIT to check the value, so
>> there is nothing to "run".
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Thanks Jorge,
>>>
>>> Can i force it to run before i move DC1?
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> "Jorge Silva" <jorgesilva_pt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:E0A039A1-3CE9-4854-8CB5-5761BF4B7C77@microsoft.com...
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>> Careful, you MAY NOT have the Default TombStone. You need to check
>>>> it's
>>>> "ACTUAL" value before proceed. Yep, tombstoneLifetime value CAN be
>>>> changed
>>>> and you may not be aware of it's current value, so, check it at:
>>>> CN=tombstoneLifetime,CN=Directory Service,CN=Windows
>>>> NT,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=yourdomain,DC=tld
>>>> --
>>>> I hope that the information above helps you.
>>>> Have a Nice day.
>>>> Jorge Silva
>>>> MVP Directory Services
>>>> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
>>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>>>> rights.
>>>> "Chris D" <cdove@hot.ma.il.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:#WRJkiGoKHA.3164@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>>>
>>>>> The site ip range is staying as is so it's just the tombstone i
>>>>> was worried about..
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again Meinolf
>>>>>
>>>>> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de> wrote in message
>>>>> news:6cb2911dcee48cc6e8321bf0fea@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Chris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No problem, as long as you are not come over the tombstone
>>>>>> lifetime, depending on the OS version and SP level between 60 and
>>>>>> 180 days. If you also change the ip range for the new site do not
>>>>>> forget to and the new subnet/site in AD sites and services before
>>>>>> moving the DC. Of course check that the remaining users have a
>>>>>> DNS server available and if you use universal groups the DChave
>>>>>> to be Globaql catalog server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BEFORE the move use dcdiag /v, netdiag and repadmin /showrepl to
>>>>>> check for errors and solve them if exist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> confers no rights.
>>>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!!
>>>>>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>>>> We are moving one of our physical offices to a new location.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have 7 Physical sites, 2DC's per site 2003 AD
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately it has to be in 2 stages so i need to move the
>>>>>>> admin users and one DC including router/fw etc. This leaves
>>>>>>> one DC on site for the remaining user authentication without any
>>>>>>> access to our AD intersite topology..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The moves will be 7 days apart. Are there any issues with having
>>>>>>> one DC effectively offline for a week while users still connect
>>>>>>> to it? We often have our remote sites disconnected for a day or
>>>>>>> so due to bad comms and had an issue with the garbage collection
>>>>>>> period which stopped all replication at one point.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
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